64GB Surface Pro to come with only 23GB free
0. phoneArena 30 Jan 2013, 06:57 posted on
Don't you just hate it when you buy a new device, only to discover that the accessible amount of free storage is significantly smaller than what you read on the specs sheet? Well, those of you who are eying the Windows 8-powered Surface Pro tablet should prepare for a similar (actually worse) surprise...
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1. sarb009 (Posts: 264; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
When the manufactures put some extra storage room they charge $100s more and in this case the available storage is even less than half, now shouldn't they drop the price ?
11. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 271; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
I agree completely. This hurts, what an even bigger rip offered
12. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
Boo! Change this issue cuz I (may) purchase 1 so I don't want to get ripped off!!!!!!
13. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Have you guys seen the regular Surface? The OS takes up 16GB of stage...
33. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Its not a rip off, these devices are capable of doing anything a $1000+ ultrabook can do, the storage on these actually deserves to be more expensive since they use solid state drives not cheap flash memory like your typical mobile devices. $100 extra for a 128gb ssd is fair. The solid state storage scale is about $100 for double till you get to 500gb then it gets very expensive after that.
39. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 124; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
It's not a rip-off, considerin it's only a 64-gig SSD with the full-version of W8 installed. Would you buy an 80-gig HDD today, install Windows, and then complain about having only ~40 gigs available for your programs? No. So by that logic, I doubt anyone would buy a 64-gig Surface Pro while thinking "the OS isn't going to take up any of that 64-gigs". Besides, you can easily use an external HDD or thumb drives for additional storage, and that recovery partition can be eliminated + expand the primary partition to maximize onboard storage. Also, keep in mind, it's an SSD, not a cheap built-in SD card, so you're paying for the much higher performance and far better memory management than an SD card can offer.
42. TritonForceX (Posts: 52; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)
It IS a rip-off when you advertise 64GB and you get to use 36% of it! Take an 80GB drive, and, at it's worst for just base Windows 7 OS, a 20GB install. You still have 75% of the disk space to work with.
When you're down to 36% usable space, just call it the 32GB or 16GB model, honestly! Unless they like to see fuel thrown on the Microsoft-hate fire.
27. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
No, because Microsoft still thinks we buy Windows because of big Microsoft itself.....but its only a tool for work so its enough to have 5 years old PC and 5 years old Windows....but Microsoft pays a lot for officials (bribing in Slovakia, Hungar etc.) to push his products up
2. Aeires (unregistered)
Should have just called it a 32GB tablet and wrote off the 9 gigs due to OS usage.
5. draconic1991 (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
what if then, some developer created a back-up bootable USB and then deleted the recovery partition and got more than 32GB in total.....that would be an awkward moment...:)
But hey then microsoft could advertise...our 32GB model comes with more than what u'd expect ;)
14. Aeires (unregistered)
Probably less than 1% of the average users are going to do that. Even if they did, who in their right mind would complain about getting extra memory?
21. draconic1991 (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
That was a joke dude...and no one would complain...i never said anything like that...bt okay..
28. jimjam (Posts: 228; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
That would not be the truth since it is a 64gb drive
7. IamTheGodfatherofCell (Posts: 33; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
hence why they are flailing and failing as a company.
9. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)
And people r ragging on apple for a 128 Verizon, that'll have about 123 free.
10. khmer (Posts: 88; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
High price and useless hardware keep it to yourself Microsoft, made it poor resolution display sell high price like Nexus 10 with resolution of 2560x1600,
34. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Ya the display might be bad but you can get a windows 8 tablet with an i7 3ghz and a dedicated gpu which will absolutely destory that nexus 10 you think is so good.
Nexus 10 loses big time in every hardware category besides screen, if you want a better screen go get a third party windows 8 tablet.
15. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 227; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Is this a surprise to anyone I mean the amount of space that's gone is absurd but when have you ever received the storage that was advertised... NEVER.
18. Aeires (unregistered)
I've never bought a device and had half the memory used already. It's common for a portion to be taken for files and whatnot, but over half is insane.
35. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Then don't get the 64gb version. It is running the same version of windows 8 that you would install on your desktop/laptop thats why its so big.
16. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Why talk s**t about a product you won't buy or have no interest in? Why all this anger, hate, and frustration over MS? You don't like it, just GTFO! Its so easy. MS's radical new products are for the open minded and nonconforming crowd. If you're one who follows trends and does what everyone else does, this not for you. You know, you may have lost some gigs, but imagine that you're buying the full Cort press here. You also have inputs and outputs to add more memory. Point of the matter is, why this obsession with hate over MS. Who cares! Just move on with your life and be happy.
22. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Wait, are you the one who said that Windows 8 would run smoother than android, on his dual core Android tablet?
And I asked, how much space it would take?
41. jsdechavez (Posts: 676; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
It has a USB 3.0 port.. no problemo there.
17. cezarepc (Posts: 442; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
When you're planning to get a Surface Pro that means you want it's capability to run legacy programs/apps and those are installed on the hard drive and not on memory cards. Memory cards won't cut it.
23. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Battlefield 3 on SD card?
36. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
They don't use sd cards, they use solid states which are 11x faster than the best sd cards in phones.
20. techspace (Posts: 394; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
microsoft surface pro is like a small notebook with touch screen, do u buy a windows pc with 64gb memory.........windows os and apps have large build size, you can buy a 64gb macbook but you just can't buy a 64gb windows laptop.....
people should buy the 128gb version because the apps and games on surface pro will be very big......
37. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Why are they only offering up to 128gb? They use ssd they should go up to 500gb.
24. jibraihimi (Posts: 539; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Well we can always connect any external HDD to this device, but Microsoft should increase internal memory more, so that atleast people get 60GB if they are purchasing 64GB model...........
25. jove39 (Posts: 1205; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
May be MS should ship SurfacePRO with pre-installed 64gb sd card!!!!
26. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
@darac ... No! Never claimed anything about Android or w8, nor do i even compare or want to compare the two. Though I will claim I'm purely annoyed by the negative nonsense regarding MS. There's alot of things that I love out there and if I'm gonna buy something, its purely based on my own research, not what PA tells me or the next guy with an iPhone. I can see though many here and especially PA staff love trying to manipulate minds. I say, who cares. If Jill wants a phone like her idle star, go ahead! Freedom!
29. Fallout09 (Posts: 409; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I dont understand how companies can get away with marketing a device with 64gb of storage space but only really gives you 23gb of usable space. Why not drop in a larger HD to give the user the 64gb or just market the actual space? Google was just as guilty with its Nexus tabs.
30. freebee269 (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
when you buy a a 1tb hard drive do you get 1tb of actual usage space? no. where's the article about that? when you install a new windows operating system on your pc and the OS takes up part of the hard drive is there complaining about that? where's the article about that? this is a full fledged windows operating system on a tablet. windows has been doing this for YEARS. and now that it's on a tablet it's just now becoming an issue? notice this tablet has a usb 2.0 port and it supports up to 2tb external hard drive. it also has a microsd slot that supports up to 64gb (which by the way your microsd card wont give you the full 64gb on it, why arent people crying about that?) that is WAY more space than the tablet has on it. this is nothing new and shouldnt be an issue in my opinion. then again, what would phonearena be without a negative microsoft article?
31. mrmessma (Posts: 24; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Yeah this stinks, but there is no way around it.
What would you propose? Make it a half featured OS instead of complete Windows? Make Windows 8 not backward compatible with older programs? Remove the recovery partition so that when you have an error or corruption your SOL?
OS's are getting larger, perhaps they should only sell a 128GB only so that those that those that could have afforded a 64GB with 20 free (quite a bit for programs that aren't games) don't buy it at all?
32. Jyakotu (Posts: 813; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Nobody should really be surprised. Even phones that say they have certain storage size, really doesn't. The OS is always going to take up majority of the space, with the rest left over to the user.
38. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
These aren't limited by storage, they could have put a 500gb ssd in it if they wanted. Wait till the third party ones come out with better screens,better cpu, more ram, more storage. The reason it takes up half the storage is because its the same version that you would put on your desktop. Shame on microsoft for using 64gb/128gb and not 128gb-500gb.
40. jsdechavez (Posts: 676; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Well, most people still have those external hard drives and thumb drives right?