6" Nokia phablet for AT&T to sport quad-core Snapdragon 800, lower-end Lumias getting 400 and 200
1. gazmatic (Posts: 501; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
now android fans wont have the argument "oh it uses last years specs"
now they will fall back on apps and features
lets see how many arguments they come up with
44. lalalaman (Posts: 135; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Its an uphill battle every day:)...u shuld b afraid tht onces it is out I might b faster than s4
66. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hehehe we can say same about sony honami or homani or whatever it is called last months specs
8. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
There is no need to provoke and initiate a flame war.
40. gazmatic (Posts: 501; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
i didnt provoke anything
it is just android fans have nothing good to say about wp and ios running smooth on limited specs
i think this is one of the reasons nokia skipped the 600 and only chose the 800, 400 and 200
12. smallworld (Posts: 360; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
But I thought high end specs weren't necessary with WP ? That's what you fanboys were saying for 3 years.
17. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 532; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
A major update is coming buddy with more cool features maybe true multi tasking and more
also more and more apps and hd games are coming to WP. Its growing fast.
WP doesn't need much specs to run its UI but apps and hd games require higher specs on all platform.
19. papss (Posts: 2184; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
And I thought cameras were not important on android but we see how competition changes everything.
41. Dr.Phil (Posts: 790; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I'm pretty sure the cameras on Android devices were always important. That's why you've seen in past Nexus devices the amount of camera features they have added such as PhotoSphere and the ability to track faces. The first device to offer OIS was an Android phone. Sony introduced the Exmor R sensor over a year ago that has been used on several Android devices since then.
48. papss (Posts: 2184; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Fans not the os. All I heard was how unimportant the camera was and now that great cameras are coming out on android the fans think its great. Also photosphere is all but useless for any real picture.. Face tracking sure I'll give you that.
83. Dr.Phil (Posts: 790; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Yes fans on all sides take things too far. I try as much as possible when I do see those types of comments to steer everyone back to reality and the facts.
52. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
@Dr. Pill: You say that, but you may recall either (or both?) the Nexus S and galagsy nexus (I think it was the gNex) having one of the worst cameras in the mid-and-high-end for its day. I remember the S didn't have 720p recording, and the gNex having the sales ban and some software issues.
And yes, while the Panasonic Lumix Phone P-05C was the first with OIS, it wasn't widely distributed,
53. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
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nor did it run android. The first /device/ with OIS was a Canon a few decades ago. The Panasonic P-05C came out in 2011. Lumia 920 came out last October and is known to be the first smartphone with OIS. Granted there has been software image stabilization (which crops the edges of the shot making a lower-res capture and losing the true framing), but it's not true OIS.
84. Dr.Phil (Posts: 790; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
First of all, when I was talking about the Nexus devices, I was merely pointing out that there was continued software updates to the camera app which meant that there was a focus on the camera. If you look back at those Nexus devices I'm sure there were better cameras on other devices, but I'm also sure that some of those better cameras were on other Android phones.
Also, I don't know where you get your facts from but the AQUOS phone with OIS introduced in 2011 was indeed an Android phone:http://www.engadget.com/2011/1
So no, the Lumia 920 was not the first smartphone to offer it.
80. Glim12808 (Posts: 344; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Can't find anywhere the pairing of Exmor R sensor with Optical Image Stabilization (I'm not talking of Digital Image Stabilization) - please give a link. Or a link to any Android phone with OIS, for that matter.
82. Dr.Phil (Posts: 790; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I never mentioned the pairing of the Exmor R with OIS. I mentioned two separate camera features that have been used to improve the camera performance of smartphones that turned out to be Android devices.
It was Sharp AQUOS device that was the first to use the OIS on any smartphone.
21. jedpatrickdatu (Posts: 133; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
We were saying high end specs aren't necessary to provide a smooth experience similar with monster droids. Although, there's not many apps that really need quad-cores and it would be more battery-hungry than useful, so I partly agree with you.
Still, average customers want as lots of cores on the spec sheet, so quad-core would probably serve more as a marketing tool.
42. gazmatic (Posts: 501; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
it isnt... the low end 200 will still be smoother than android with the same specs
perfect example... lumia 520
no android with similar specs can run as smooth
nokia is trying to make a point
they want to squash the nay sayers before they can say "still cant compare to android specs"
the new lumias will have
800 for high end phablets
400 for mid
200 for low
show me a low end android that runs smooth sans tweak and mod...
55. tadaa (Posts: 133; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
false. xperia l performs adequately despite having similar specs with the 520 (granted not the same chipset). i should know i own a 520. plus i don't get app resumes on android. i get that you like wp but no need to bash android devices.
64. gazmatic (Posts: 501; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
lumia still cheaper with more features
if you think the xperia is better, why did you get a lumia?
69. tadaa (Posts: 133; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
Where did i say xperia is better? I only answered your question that xperia l is on par with 520 with similar specs. And the argument is about smoothness, why jump to features (don't get me started on that) and pricing? Shows you can't handle debates fanboy.
81. Glim12808 (Posts: 344; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Where did you get the idea that the xperia l is at par in performance with 520? Absolutely untrue because the xperia stutters in some areas while the 520 is smooth in operation!
85. tadaa (Posts: 133; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
Dude 520 stutters as well occasionally. You use it day to day you'd notice. They are about the same.
70. tadaa (Posts: 133; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
And to answer your question, its because the 520 is the best damn phone in its price
62. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1476; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
i would take apps and features over smoothness....
76. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
even apps that don't work properly and smoothly?
78. lalalaman (Posts: 135; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
ur such a die hard fan of android...i like both android and wp8...bt im captivated bt wp8 smoothness...those android low end devices are so crap...makes me feel like my EYES ARE DEFECTED...:(
50. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
There's high-end specs, and then there's clever specs, e.g. having four cores running at a more efficient speed and interval than two means better battery life and better process allocation. It's like having a bunch of people to carry a load rather than one or two, less strain for everyone. Think pallbearers at a funeral, for instance, almost always six or more.
28. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
this is still like preparing a feast and covering it up with dog poop... nokia always has/had fantastic hardware but it's wp... joke
35. papss (Posts: 2184; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
See I feel that way about android.. Its all in the eyes of each customer.
56. akki20892 (Posts: 1680; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
just want to see Nokia Phablet with Win8......!!! if that device has Win8 then it will blast of competitors, and no chance to beat it.......!!!
2. Nesco (Posts: 5; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
i dont think windows phone need all that cpu power
10. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Good specs are required not only for OS but for applications and games which are running on OS. Talking about the games and WP, there already was inconveniences because of small amount of RAM memory in WP devices. Also higher specs means that there is bigger chance that your device will be updated to the newer OS in the future (or less "fragmentation" due weak hardware).
Nice to see that Nokia is starting to put more powerful hardware into their devices. :)
13. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 532; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Better specs mean better high end hd games, better multitasking, specs,keeping up with competition, more future proof.
this will cost almost same as most android flagship phones so why not have best of the best on your device. Besides most people like to hold higher value specs on their device. We don't need 1080p resolution but people prefer 1080p over 720p.
its also a marketing technic.
3. xtian1103 (Posts: 352; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
snapdragon 600 would be okay i think. with great power comes great battery consumption!
37. Credo (Posts: 558; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
You remind me of the uncle of Spiderman ! Lol
39. lalalaman (Posts: 135; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Hey I saw u on wpcentral as well...im new here
4. xperiaDROID (Posts: 3745; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nokia is stepping up the game! Any last words Fandroids and Sheeps?
Attention!! The sheeps I mentioned are not offensive. Sheep is an animal that lives in a farm.
9. muser793 (Posts: 19; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Metrotube!! better than official youtube app on android!
14. smallworld (Posts: 360; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
False. YouTube was updated yesterday. Kills metrotube.
11. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
seriously? you buy android because of youtube? hahaha. so pathetic....
27. scriptwriter (Posts: 388; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
No, we buy android because it's the best!! FACT!!
31. smallworld (Posts: 360; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Because it does everything other operating systems do and much more.
72. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
does that include being a weapon of mass destruction or being a grenade as well....
77. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i been hearing some android explodes these days
30. lalalaman (Posts: 135; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Hey dude ur on a windows phone article.just b a diplomate ;)
And u were the one arguing abot youtube first...
Android mayb b best now but wait until the competition is fair....u never knw...:)
71. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
ok, keep telling yourself that....no ones stopping you......the best, bwahaha....hehehe, bwahaha, hohoho, hehehe...
22. noler (Posts: 103; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Yes, i like Sheeps, I would like to order one of these.
23. noler (Posts: 103; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
You also can eat them and make a nice sweater.