5 things that could have made the new HTC One (M8) even better
0. phoneArena 25 Mar 2014, 11:55 posted on
As per old PhoneArena tradition, once a flagship finally sees its official inauguration, it means that it's time for us to put it through quite the number of hoops in order to truly see what it's made of. We go to great lengths before reaching a verdict, but we honestly believe it's worth it as it's then helpful for both potential buyers and manufacturers alike...
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2. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Disagree with #5. #3 is no concern with "Double Tap to Wake".
14. MrKoles (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
I feel sorry for HTC for not improving that disappointing huge mess they call Ultrapixel.
4 megapixels was low even 5 years ago in a flagship...
30. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Above all that also;
3GB LPDDR4 RAM
S805 at 2.7Ghz even better would be the Tegra5 or Exynos5522 or 5420 A15
Ceramic or metal, steel instead of aluminuim
32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
LPDDR4 is a long ways away
440 ppi is more than enough, anything more is at 5" is just wasted battery and GPU power
S805 would have been welcome, but the S801 is still more than enough for anything. Also, Tegra 5 doesn't exist, it's Tegra K1.
Aluminum is metal. Aircraft grade aluminum, which is much lighter and dissipates heat better than steel, so it's more practical for a phone.
The 2600 mAh battery has performed better than 3000 mAh batteries. Sense 6 is optimized like crazy, I would how the One max with a 3300 mAh battery will do once it gets the update.
You realize a higher aperture is actually worse for a camera, right? A f/3.0 aperture would be terrible.
Get some new material, TROLL
36. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
so in 2 or 3 years time these specs would exzist and you will say that all this will be useless.... really
2 years ago when people wanted 2014 specs in 2012 was not possible and having all these know is not right, so delusional you are, you dont want 2015 specs know but rather wait... 550ppi is on oppo7 phone
ceramic for people who prefer prestige material. so your saying people who buy rolex and breitling are idiots?
so you wouldnt take a titanium built phone but would prefer cheap aluminuim
i like my stuffs made with quality prestige
my nokia 8800 has
so owning this or having this is not right, what dont you prefer good quality things in life or you prefer average standard junk?
39. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
As software evolves we will need better CPUs, GPUs, and RAM, yes, but not now, and not within the next 2 or 3 years. As for pixel densities, 400+ is enough. I think 500+ is useless, and all it does is waste power and result in lower performance.
HTC tried ceramic already with the One S, and it didn't work out so well. The process was expensive and some people reported the ceramic was chipping off.
I would rather take aluminum than titanium. Titanium would make the phone heavier, more prone to over heating, and much more expensive. It's not cheap aluminum either, there are different types of aluminum, and the type used in phones, cars, and airplanes is a lot more premium than the type used in soda cans.
40. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
they used cheap rubbish ceramic. ever herd of RADO WATCHES, fine quality
550ppi will give more clarity and super razor sharp detail
if they wanted to deploy a 4000mah battery they couldve but no oems dont like to give us, we are willing to pay 200 dollars for better quality materials, look at apple everyone wants to show off or trend style out with there phone the car they drive the designer clothes they buy, public is willing to pay 900 or 1000 dollars for quality fine products
the heavier the phone the more weight and feel and touch there is
rolex watches weigh at 350grams breitling watches weigh at 400 grams thats the sign of purity and fine prestige
see the diffrence between you and me is i prefer fine qualty prestige designer goods in life and you prefer standard products typical average person, im not typical i like and look for quality
titanium and carbon fiber can take heat pressure even at 60degrees you wont feel it
49. alrightihatepickingusernames (Posts: 474; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
500+ PPI is not useless, just negligible. I'll leave you with this to explain:http://www.cultofmac.com/17370
However! At this point I'm not begging for such pixel densities, display technology is ahead of the rest of the technology in the phone, which needs time to catch up. The manufacturer that sticks with 1080p while others go to QHD and UHD will have WAY better performing devices. Just look at the 5S, it's pushing around a third of the pixels that most Android flagships are pushing and it gets far better frame rates.
37. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
you like whats suitable for you, i prefer prestige
i wear guccci loafers guccci shirts prada jeans armani jeans i dont buy cheap rubbish junk
your theroy that you claim which is possible know will be possible in 2years time, then what you gonna say then...
41. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
so, by using the word "prestige" what are you implying? because that word i no way relates to the context you're ruthlessly shoving it into. i understand the want for a premium feel but with hardware you already replace every two years (MAX) why would you want to pay 600+?
if you truly want "premium" why don't you look into the $50,000 versions that some companies make with diamonds and a gold layover? you'll be sacrificing specs but you'll have that "prestige".
47. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
sapphire glass costs 30 front 30 back
carbonfibre 100 front back
titanium 200 front back
ceramic 150 front back
i dont want diamonds gold
1080p display costs 80
s801 cpu gpu 35
exynos 5420 30 plus broadcom 4g lte 20
anyone will be happy to pay900 for these,, this is possible know but oems are being so efin lazy to provide just like ios wp8 have no features but will imply what kk422 has in 4 years time
51. BesnikRrustemi (Posts: 44; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Really ??? if so then :
mouse & Keyboard & 21-24inch display
and call it a computer and use it for :
a design company ?
an architect pc,etc
54. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
Agree #1 wish it was 10 ultra pixel guess its just hard to upgrade the htc symbol should have been finger print scanner for payments I like gs5 lockable pics and files with dinner
3. maherk (Posts: 3753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I agree with number 3 and 4, the rest is fine by me.
4. McLTE (Posts: 821; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
seriously.. why do you need more than 4MP in a camera? how many photos do you actually enlarge? I bet NONE.
6. alan_1230 (Posts: 83; Member since: 22 Apr 2012)
regardless there is no excuse for such a weak camera and to not have the ability to do something so simple as to enlarge a picture because it will look bad is not acceptable . If samsung and nokia can add a 16mp and above why can't they ask your self that ...
7. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You don't, but others do, especially when they crop photos.
33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The majority of people hating on Ultrapixels are hating them for no reason except for other people saying they're bad. In reality, most of the people who will actually notice the cons of Ultrapixels should have DSLRs anyways if they care about photos that much. The goal of a smartphone camera is to be able to take quick pictures with decent quality, and the One (2013 and 2014) delivers on that. The pictures it produces are more than good enough for sharing.
50. true1984 (Posts: 823; Member since: 23 May 2012)
i agree but considering how expensive these devices are it makes sense for people to want the best everything. i couldnt care less myself since most of the time i forget my phone has a camera. personally i love the phone so i;m getting it next week.
60. to-ma-to (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)
u know...haters gonna hate...
First of all, the new htc one has been proven (in both gsmarena and phonearena reviews) for having one of the best battery life for a flagship and some stupid samsung fanboy keeps repeating that he wants to hav removable battery which is not important at all since the majority users use power banks instead of extra battery.
Secondly, most people (not all) prefers better build quality . The new htc one has a body which has even more metal (90%) and thus giving it a more premium feel but making it more heavier than other flagship phones . It is definitely..DEFINITELY feels and looks better than s5.
Thirdly, one must accept the fact that samsung AMOLED display has the best contrast among all the phones. But what most of us want is display with accurate color. And the all new htc one has it.
Fourthly, htc cares for the audiophiles and even improves the already-best BoomSound stereo speakers and the built-in-amp. It has unparalleled audio performance (again the gsmarena review has proven it).
IF ONE STILL THINKS THAT THE NEW HTC ONE IS NOT BETTER OR ON PAR WITH SAMSUNG S5, he must be an ignorant guy.
11. maherk (Posts: 3753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I won't judge before I see a comparison with other flagships, I have no problems with it being 4mp if they indeed improved it. But if it turned out to be the same as last year's one, I bet it will piss off lotttts of HTC faithfuls.
17. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Still the 4MP camera mostly everyone hates.
23. maherk (Posts: 3753; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
well they really did end up screwing themselves over with their stubborness. I was really hoping for HTC to give Samsung a good fight this year, because we need it as a customers, but I guess we ll have to wait for next year.
16. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Ok ehm, try to zoom in..
More than 50% i can easily assume wants to crop or zoom-in on photos sometime. The phone is really nice and good but the camera department on a phones is really important now and people would actully consider a mid-range phone with 12mp over the HTC with such a poor camera.. there is alot of people who actually buy a phone depending on camera since its one of the top 5 thing you use in a phone now.. (no i don't have any source this is actual field fact.. go out and ask people how f*cking often they use their phone camera, or look in their phone library when photos were taken.)
I actually Loved the design and everything about the new HTC, im not much of a hater for bezels its just nice if it was slimmer but overall i don't care.. but its a no for me cause it use the camera on my phones as my 3-4 most used item on the phone, i take pics more often than i call people (usually texts)
42. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
i've had the HTC One (2013) for about six months now and it's not a 4mp camera.. i have no issue with the pictures taken. i know the term ultra pixel is a little gimmicky and that deterred me from getting the phone a bit in the first place however it feels much closer to 8mp than 4. i understand with 4k resolutions being released everyone wants to be able to take a picture on their phone and use it on their $2,000 monitor. That may be possible someday but currently it's just not realistic. while smartphones are some incredible pieces of engineering hardware their primary purpose is still not a camera... that being said, i disagree with #1 lol.
8. alan_1230 (Posts: 83; Member since: 22 Apr 2012)
Only issue i have with this is #1 100% . sorry but no htc M8 for me this year ... I will get The s5 then after the iphone 6 ...
9. hafini_27 (Posts: 888; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)
At least make it water and dust proof to compensate for the phone's huge size. Also,that stupid black bar bezel with the HTC logo is completely unnecessary.
12. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
#2 is the deal breaker for me. The thing is way too tall. The original One was at the upper limit of overall size for my liking. The new One is too big, with no appreciable benefit that I can see. The extra screen size is taken up by one screen keys. And bafflingly they decided to keep that HTC logo area intact, only now it offers no value.
Of the 3 new flagships, the S5 is the winner for me, simply because it is the most compact, and makes the best use of space. But even then, it is big enough to make me question why I just wouldn't go for the Note 3.
45. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
i agree. it took a break in pride for me to get a 4.7" phone lol i remember when i thought 4.3" was HUGE!! now i'm pretty happy with 4.7 but i'm not looking forward to making the jump to 5.. i really wonder why the "mini" versions of phones need to be so destroyed in specs... the HTC One Mini would have been a dream for me if it had equal specs to the original. i understand the whole "budget" version but what about people with little hands and no purses?
13. HTCOE (Posts: 632; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
i slightly agree with number one but yes to make better they should have made the body more compact and removed the front bottom bezel for entire screen.
15. erikiksaz (Posts: 170; Member since: 22 Apr 2010)
Water-proofing phones only punishes those who are aren't idiots.
I never drop my phone, let alone drop it into water. I don't need to screw around with stupid port-covering, constantly-getting-in-my-way-of-charging plastic covers.
18. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
The almost only time i've dropped my phone in water was my Z1 cause i wanted to test how pics underwater looked :)
24. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
how often do u need to open the ports? water proof is for accidental dropping or someone splashes or spills water or liquid, your getting a piece of mind of such incidents happening.
The price of the M8 would be similar to the S5 or Z2, but it has no water proof, so I would rather buy something with extra feature AKA water proof.
19. Anshulonweb (Posts: 430; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
waiting for xperia z2 vs HTC one vs Samsung s5 comparison
20. SlowPoison77 (Posts: 27; Member since: 30 Nov 2013)
agree with #4, coz it eats space of the screen
21. Kishin (Posts: 704; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Onscreen keys, design and camera big let down..
22. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
0.5" bigger screen. The phone is just too big, almost as tall and heavy as the 5.7" Note 3!
I'm sorry but boom sound doesn't justify it, how often do use your phone speakers speakers loud? How often do you use your screen? Exactly...
26. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
It is ridiculously huge for its 5" display!
Look at the size comparison with others, hell it is closer in size to the Note 3 than to the Galaxy S4 which has the same screen size!
Oh and that camera again??
Overall HTC did an unbelievably dumb, unacceptable job this time.
I find the S5 way better than this actually!
27. Klamba92 (Posts: 210; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
On screen keys is not a problem as they dissapear in videos pictures and even some games with immersive mode and you can force it on all your apps with a free app on the play store even for non rooted devices!
29. Rager722 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
My only problem is the camera could have been ATLEAST 6 MP and the on screen buttons are a waste of screen space
46. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
i don't think you understand what 4up looks like. it is certainly NOT 4mp.. the camera on the 2013 One compares easily with the 8mp camera that was on the incredible 4g which i upgraded from.
31. Troysyx (Posts: 177; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)
Absolutely agree about the size. I love on-screen buttons, but they made the thing HUGE! why do you need to put your frickin logo on the bottom that takes up so much space????
35. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The internal structure of the phone demands that the space below the screen be there. In the 2013 One, it was used by capacitive buttons. With the 2014 One, since it had on screen buttons, HTC had a choice to either put their logo there or just leave it as a black bar, I think the logo is the better choice.
56. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
or just remove the black bar for more screen estate?
57. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
They had to have the black bar there, I said this in my comment. They needed the space for the digitizer, and they couldn't stick it under the speaker, so they needed the black bar there.
34. Cyberchum (Posts: 675; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Phonearena really enjoys flooding their site with redundant articles whenever a phone is announced. You'll get confused with which to read and get more worthy news.
38. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Should have dropped the HTC area and replaced it with screen, then widened the screen to reduce those large bezels. If LG can figure this out, why can't HTC?
43. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Beautiful phone, but I think I will wait for the One Max 2 or w.e they decide to call it.
48. vandroid (Posts: 328; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
NO phonearena a side button would not have made this device better. I do agree with everything else though
52. BesnikRrustemi (Posts: 44; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
1. i kinda agree with the camera,8 mpx would have been enough.
2.body: personal choice
3. are nowadays people so handicap to raise the other hand to press a button ?
4.Propably the best feature that 90% of people waited for and all the tech sites talked about going with on screen buttons.
5.Do not masturbate with it in toilet & it isnt a swimming pool underwear to go with it on water.
i know a lot of people will reply with comments against me.but seriously im just saying the truth
50% of people might agree,and 50% will deny accepting the reality.
53. jonathanbond100110 (Posts: 8; Member since: 20 May 2013)
Um. Bargainteers website just showed that the HTC One M8 is actually waterproof.
55. lyndon420 (Posts: 4382; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
The on screen buttons are one of the reasons I chose my Moto X. All it took was some capacitive buttons to stop working properly on one of my phones to see the benefits of incorporating them into the touchscreen. Sure...when browsing the internet the buttons are there, but when I'm looking at pics or movies the row of buttons disappear so it's not like you loose screen real estate for the important stuff like many of you are claiming.
58. LikeMyself (Posts: 438; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
Now imagine if the new One had a camera like the G2 13 MP with OIS. It would have been icing on the cake!
Nonetheless I'll buy it when it arrives as it's too beautiful!
Now imagine if the G2 had an external sd slot! Anyone can tip this to LG for G3 please!
59. kingEngine (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2014)
100% agree with the idea that capacitive buttons should have been included instead for more screen estate with all the seemingly extra space at the bottom. Also goes better with the design. Waterproofing is more of a nice bonus than a must have, but then again i haven't owned a waterproof phone.