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5 devices once thought to be original iPhone killers

0. phoneArena 03 Jun 2012, 09:50 posted on

As we’re nearing the 5-year anniversary of the original iPhone’s release here in the US, we can’t help but recall how much of a profound impact it made in the mobile landscape. Before its arrival, smartphones primarily consisted of portrait QWERTY devices...

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posted on 03 Jun 2012, 22:58 1

140. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Right....Apple redesigned their notification system on iOS they way they did for a reason.

Thats at least ...one....instance where it leapfrogged Apple..

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 19:30 1

127. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


"2009 sales iPhone rushed the original droid sales"

So your saying that a phone Apple and AT&T had been selling since the beginning of that year...actually outsold the Droid? A phone that came out in Nov of that same year?

What a great achievement for the good folks at Apple! Beating the competition with only a 11 MONTH head start??? I don't know how Apple managed to overcome those tremendous odds!

(Can you sense the sarcasm I'm putting out there?)
How did the iPhone do against the Blackberry Curve... Just curious!

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:09 1

46. LumiaFans (Posts: 2; Member since: 03 Jun 2012)


One thing for sure....

Blackberry were killed by iphone :)
(I'm surprised that PhoneArena didn't write about this at all)
Searching the news about BB in Google give me 1500+ article about:
* BB lose another .....
* BB write of .....
* GP Morgan told BB to sell their company ....
* shareholder ask RIM to be sell....

and many more...

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:20 6

55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Blackberry just didn't try to adapt. It's crazy to me they've been releasing the same phone since 2006 with minor upgrades. Windows mobile and Symbian were also killed off.

Android has done a great job competing. They're really the only competitive OS to iOS.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:12 4

73. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


GASP!!!

Is this the REAL taco50? "Android has done a great job competing. They're really the only competitive OS to iOS."

Wow! I can give that a +1.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:27

74. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


taco will reply back properly if you talk to him without trying to condescend him or trying to make him make a fanboyish comment

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:09 2

83. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


he does 1 proper return a week. he spent it already.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:05

111. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Sorry taz, we tried that many timespan the past. It doesn't work! Trust me.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:34

115. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol maybe its just with you guys,most of the time i get good comments back from him

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 22:20 1

138. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


51% market share vs 25%....iOS is not competitive to android. But I m sure they appreciate the misguided compliment. The only reason the original iPhone was ahead in the beginning was the iPod. Millions of iTunes users that wanted a smartphone were able to keep all of their media files synced to iTunes. The success of the original iPhone can be attributed to apple's success with the iPod. Just as the success of the iPad an be attributed to the iPhone. Though the only thing that's advanced about the iPad is the screen that LG and sharp make for them.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:21

57. azazellov (Posts: 5; Member since: 03 Jun 2012)


I think the Blackberry was killed by RIM by standing still and releasing the same models with slight changes over and over.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:25

60. roscuthiii (Posts: 1785; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


RIM killed Blackberry by being resistant to change.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:32

64. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3942; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


If Blackberry would've kept releasing better products instead of just making hardly noticeable upgrades, they probably would be in Androids position in the market right now. It's a shame that a company with that much potential is dying, the only way they can save themselves is if either they get bought by another company, or BB10 gets popular.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:18

101. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I would say a combo of the iPhone and Android.

RIM and Win Mo, WP7 both suffered at the hands of them both. RIM was holding on before Android came out. The lower prices, choices, physical keyboards...I think its safe to say Android had a hand in it too.

Govt and corporations are looking at Android and iPhone for replacing their RIM contracts.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:20

56. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Nokia Lumia Windows 8 Pureview = Mega iPhone Killer

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:37

66. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


and orignal Iphone was N-95 killer or near to killing its future

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 16:06 1

107. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Actually N95 was doing really well. After all it was like a spaceship when compared to original iPhone.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:51

68. protozeloz (Posts: 5371; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I owned most of them.... SUCKED

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:57

71. ananya22 (Posts: 93; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


i owned the sgh f480 and i must say, even for its time that phone sucked. i'd rather not have had a phone than have that at the time it launched. the first touchwiz handled scroll in the opposite way to the standard. if you would swipe your finger downwards the list would go up

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:38 3

76. MartyK (Posts: 697; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Try being a owner of Window 6.x ..this is truly the worst OS in the history of OS..
You have to pull the battery everytime you started a new task!.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 10:54

154. hepresearch (unregistered)


better yet... every time I was working on a mobile spreadsheet on my WinMo 6.0 T-Mobile Dash, and someone called me, I could never answer their call, I could never silence the ringer, and the phone would keep ringing for as long as it took for me to pull out the battery. Truly rediculous... I was very glad to go back to Symbian, and never left them for years... until I went bankrupt and had to sell just about everything I owned. Now all I have is memories of my past smartphones that I liked, and everyone else's iPhones around here to look at everywhere I go.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:42

77. codymws (Posts: 237; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)


Motorola Droid?

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:48

79. Sniggly (Posts: 6770; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yeah, you guys forgot a couple. The Storm was largely considered an iPhone killer, and sold like crazy. There were lines for that phone. However, it was a total piece of s**t, and Blackberry had no plans to even try to fix the software issues for months after its release.

The Motorola Krave was also a phone that I think was supposed to fulfill that role. Sadly, even though it had a freaky kickass design, it never sold well, and ended up being the last attempt by Motorola at a high end phone for Verizon.

The LG Dare was another, and while it wasn't a total piece of s**t, it had its issues.

Fortunately, Android proved that even if a single line of phones by one manufacturer couldn't replace the iPhone's top spot in popularity, in terms of OS to OS it could be eclipsed.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:22

88. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5558; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the Storm and Krave were trash but the Dare served me a good year or two.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:00

98. axllebeer (Posts: 265; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)


Perhaps it should've been a top 10 list of the supposed iPhone killers.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 20:00 1

133. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


The storm had a few software upgrades. The problem wasnt the software, that worked just fine. The problem was the mass manufacturing defects with the pezio screens that they couldnt fix in time. I happened to be lucky enough to get a perfectly working screen, threw on some stuff from crackberry.com, and had a wonderful phone.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 23:43 1

142. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5558; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the original Storm actually didn't have a pezio screen, it's screen was essentially a touch screen sitting on a giant button. the pezio display came on the Storm 2 and it was actually a really nice phone. it's what the Storm should've been. too bad people had such a bad taste in their mouths from the Storm by that point.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:12 2

84. djripster (Posts: 119; Member since: 10 Dec 2011)


Surprised the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic wasnt on the list..

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 21:49

137. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Are you kidding? Read my txt, there was no iPhone killer! HTC tried with no success. Though Samsung is moving in the right direction. If HTC came out with the one x a long time ago, it would have put the iPhone to the test.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 23:57 2

143. djripster (Posts: 119; Member since: 10 Dec 2011)


What I meant to point out what that Nokia pushed the 5800 as an iPhone killer... Not saying they were successful...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 10:27 2

152. hepresearch (unregistered)


Yes, I remember when they released the 5800, and I was very hopeful at the time that Nokia would indeed make the 5800 a great "iPhone killer" in its day... I even had hope that it would come to my current employer at the time, T-Mobile USA, since they had recently carried previous XpressMusic handsets and Nokia's Symbian smartphones, which I had preferred for a long time... but alas, there never was a true "iPhone killer" ever made by anyone, and the 5800, which never got AWS 3G to work with T-Mobile USA, was the beginning of the huge disappointment that was S60 5th Edition...

The 5230 didn't come to T-Mobile until I was already gone from there, but even then it was already known that S60 5th Edition was becoming an epic flop worldwide, and the 5230 was regarded by many to be junk despite the fact that Nokia's resistive touchscreen was a pretty decent resistive touchscreen. Then again, that was the obvious problem... resistive... and not capacitive. S60 5th Edition was rather dreadful on its own, as well. The X6 had a capacitive touchscreen with S60 5th, but was also a miserable failure. I liked S60 3rd, and yet S60 5th was terrible for Symbian... the final nail in the coffin of public trust for Symbian. Symbian never recovered from the stigma of that time.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:21 1

86. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5558; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i'm surprised phones like the Pre, Storm & Dare weren't up there.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:57 2

96. axllebeer (Posts: 265; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)


Love it or hate it, and it didn't come close to killing anything, but I really think the BlackBerry Storm or Storm 2 should have been on this list. It was RIM's response to the iPhone. Even the original PhoneArena review stated so.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 10:45 1

153. hepresearch (unregistered)


True. And yet, like Nokia's attempt with the 5800, the Storm helped to bring BlackBerry down. Blackberry has failed to outlive the stigma of that time, just like Symbian failed to outlive the stigma of their time pushing out S60 5th Edition on devices. The result is that Nokia has dumped Symbian in favor of WP, and RIM is dumping BlackBerry's original core and kernels in favor of QNX... they will still call it BlackBerry (10) for the name's sake, and although it may behave similarly, it no longer has the same heart.

Now that I think about it, Nokia could have gone for Android and made a Nokia S60-like 'Active Standby' skin... that could have been a really cool way for Nokia to get the innards of Android and still customize its appearance with their own unique flavor.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:49

104. Gamr425 (Posts: 11; Member since: 10 May 2012)


you guys forgot the palm pre

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:40

117. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6230; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


First Android phone is and still always will be my Motorola Atrix. Just glad I never have to rush out and buy those older models shown in the pic

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 21:41 1

136. JSern (Posts: 282; Member since: 22 May 2011)


Fandroids

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 07:36 1

146. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)


You cannot be serious. I have owned 4 Android devices thinking the next one will be better than the next, giving Google a little more room to fix mistakes. Well they didn't. I have had GPS issues, battery life, overheating, apps crashing, reboots, the apps are poorly designed and the phones lag like a turd even with these cool dual core processors. I can go all day long. The iPhone has great stability and lasts more than one year. A family member of mine had the 3gs and it runs fine with no problems. I recently just got hired in at Sprint and I can't even tell you how many people I see EVERY SINGLE DAY switching from Android to the iPhone. Why not? Good battery life (even with emails pushing), the apps are approved from Apple so there isn't garbage/spam that users can get, Facetime (I have tried all on Android and they SUCK), and another favorite tweak of mine is group texting. The iPhone is a much more superior device than any Android phone. Take it from someone who has owned 4 of them. Why do you think EVERY SMARTPHONE ON THIS SITE is compared to the iPhone? Because the iPhone is the best. You pay $650.00 for a brand new iPhone. You pay $600 for a new Android. If you can't afford it then its on you, but I would recommend the iPhone to anyone. Even if you like to root your phone, the iPhone has way better tweaks with cydia IMO.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 19:59

159. corporateJP (Posts: 1548; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Some real good points there...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 10:20 1

150. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I like that most of these are LG and Samsung.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 10:22

151. hepresearch (unregistered)


There never was an actual "iPhone killer"... instead, after several failed attempts to "kill" the iPhone, OEM's now emulate the iPhone's fundamental user experience by either doing what Apple already does in iOS, or by developing parallel UI software that acheives the same goal by slightly different means. Now, Apple looks at everyone else's slightly different means, and finds ways to adapt those new methods back into the next generation of iPhones. They all now feed each other, and feed ON each other, and the original iPhone concept is the successful ruling user experience of our day. No one ever killed the iPhone... everyone else had to shape-shift into iPhone-like devices to effectively adapt to competitively coexist with the original Apple iPhone and its descendants. Until the 'large capacitive touch-screen with multitouch and gestures running apps and/or widgets and/or tiles' can be replaced with something new and different and truly unique, there will be no end in sight to the legacy of the original Apple iPhone.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 19:40 1

156. meth3man (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


I don't think the LG Prada was ever carried by a US carrier, but i could be wrong. If we're talking genuine Iphone Killer, one phone that has to be mentioned is the Nokia N97. Full-Touchscreen w/ Slide-out keyboard and tilting screen for media viewing. 5MP Cam with Carl Ziess optics, full browser and a superior Nokia Maps w/ voice turn-by-turn, which eventually became free. Apps and home-screen widgets, 32GB internal hard-drive w/ microSD up to 32GB, TV-Out (way before HDMI ports), and the list goes on....

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 20:07

160. hepresearch (unregistered)


Although I love Nokia devices, especially of the Symbian ilk, I have to say that the N97 was glitchy and nasty to the point of being rediculous. I have had a couple friends in the past that went for those, and they always had serious issues. S60 5th Edition was especially horrible when run on processors which were meant for S60 3rd Edition FP2. The N97 was meant to be the flagship device in its day, and it really left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths. I'm not saying that everyone had a bad experience with it, but a majority of users did. Customer reviews of the N97 and the N97 mini were consistently below average. Yes, it had a lot of amazing hardware for its day... TV out was quite new to mobile devices, as well as the large internal memory, superior Nokia Maps and browser, and the keyboard was very large (though I would argue the keyboard navi-pad was placed on the wrong side of the device for most folks)... but, even with that cool tilt-screen design, the user experience was legitimately awful for quite a few folks.

What I don't understand is how a phone that came out before the iPhone (namely the LG Prada) could ever be considered an "iPhone killer"... just a slight problem with relativistic causality there, don't ya think?

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 19:53

158. corporateJP (Posts: 1548; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


LG Voyager...FTW.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 05:36

162. AndroidShiz (Posts: 145; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


It's like the teams who thought of and designed those phones were all related to Steve Ballmer.

posted on 09 Jun 2012, 06:18

166. becazican (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


while you may all agree the iphone is the best seller, you dont state the reason, i phone revolutionized the tech phone world somewhat and than they sold it like a politician sells his soull. we have all those sheep following and will buy a bag of crap if it had iphone stamped on it, the phone has lots of goodies but as a phone to speak on is crap , voice quality sucks.

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