4G SIM cards arrive on Verizon
Until then, however, Verizon still has to bring some LTE-capable handsets to work on that network. The company's 4G arsenal is limited to only two 4G USB modems at the moment, both of which appeared on Verizon's website in the beginning of the month. What is 4G bringing in terms of speed? Big Red promises average speeds ranging from 5 Mbps to 12 Mbps, so get ready for real-life download rates from 625 KBps to 1.5 MBps. Actually, the technology is capable of delivering much more, with initial tests showing download rates boom to 28 Mbps, but traffic congestion will slow it down significantly.
Verizon's LTE is expected in 38 major metropolitan areas by year-end, which would cover some 110 million Americans. Do you expect 4G to deliver as much as it promises?
1. brikz4real posted on 23 Nov 2010, 09:44 1 0
Ok cool. Now, if only they would make the 4G phones for these SIM cards to go into. Sounds like a good idea.
2. dt401 posted on 23 Nov 2010, 09:53 2 1
Maybe the HTC Merge that was 'delayed' from Nov 11th will be coming w/ the 4G radio and front facing camera...
Oh how I wish.
14. mr. droid posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:44 1 2
who the hell cares about front facing cameras!? what for?? so you and your woman can masturbate together and watch one another at the same time when you cant be together??
17. tbuchs2001 (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 16:45 0 0
that was uncalled for
18. Gus P (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 19:18 0 0
Was that a joke? I do.
1) Talk to family in Europe via video chat during the day.
2) What's wrong with video chatting with a loved one who lives far away?
24. CRICKETownz posted on 23 Nov 2010, 22:49 0 0
@Gus P - I think what he is sayin is front facing cameras are overrated. To a degree i share his same disinterest b/c since the first front facing camera on a phone has seen the light of day people act like "oh, it doesn't have a front facing camera? that phone is lame" type of an approach now which is pure ignorance, i think.
3. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 12:50 0 0
I am really curious about what happens to the effective download speed once 4G handsets are available. Last week, I was at a Verizon store checking out the Samsung Galaxy tablet and the sales rep was telling me about how fast it was on a 3G connection. So I asked if the tablet that I was looking at was on the 3G network (it was displaying the 3G symbol) and the sales rep confirmed that it was. I logged onto speakeasy.net/speedtest and ran a test cycle, and lo and behold, the download speed was 280 kbps (ironically, upload speed was 560 kbps...). Sales rep was very quiet when I showed hiim the test results.
I wonder what the real life download speed of Verizon's 4G network is going to be.
4. zerglisk posted on 23 Nov 2010, 14:05 0 0
Yes, numbers dont lie, ppl do!
3G speeds just varies from time to time and places to places, so doing a single test cannot justify the whole 3G service anyway.
A constant 5~8 Mbps should be great for a current 4G service imo.....
6. BobbyTaba posted on 23 Nov 2010, 14:09 1 0
u gotta test it a few times to see if it stays the same
8. i0Tt0 (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 14:21 2 2
9. smpdx posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:00 1 0
LTE wont ever be capable of the standards set for 4G. So technically I can see how you can say that.
However, it is a "fourth" gen of wireless tech. So essentially it is 4G.
13. Pings posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:35 2 0
No "4G" is real 4G that goes for every carrier. Real 4G is over 100Mbps. We are going to have to wait for 5G (LTE Advanced) to get real 4G. But, no really cares if it's real 4G or not so just get over and call it what it's not.
25. CRICKETownz posted on 23 Nov 2010, 23:01 0 0
Does it matter if the label doesn't meet the "technical" definition of 4G speeds or is it more important that the service is faster/more reliable than the competition? Do customers care about who has the biggest 700mhz spectrum and upload/download numbers? No. All they are concerned with is does it work more efficient than what the previous technology was. Carriers don't refer to 4G so much in the sense as the technical 4G speed definition but more so as the next generation of technology for the industry. I could care about the numbers all that matters is does it offer me a better experience than what i have become accustomed to.
29. cowsrockalot posted on 24 Nov 2010, 15:21 0 0
Yea, but to me 4G means the Fourth Generation of data technology. We won't be seeing 4g speeds for a VERY long time.
7. pumah350 (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 14:21 0 0
@DXD- So what does the results mean? Sorry not really that geeky. I presume you mean that it was slow as hell and not 3g speeds?
11. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:21 0 0
The fastest download speeds I have seen on my Droid X have been in the range of 1.8 mbps (1,800 kbps). The worst download speed I have seen was 38 kbps on an Apple iPhone 4.
The point of my earlier post was that in the absence of sufficient capacity, a 4G claim is but a fairy tale - yes you might have a 4G network, but the effective speed of the network is worse than dial-up (the Apple iPhone 4 test result on the AT&T 3G network).
BTW, the Verizon store where I did the test was located in a retail street-type mall. So, yes there is potentially high network demand due to the presence of many users. But isn't that what AT&T was suffering under (high network demand) when the 3G-capable iPhone was released? I ran two iterations on the speed test to adjust for any failure due to hardware. Both test results were slow on the download speed.
10. smpdx posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:03 0 0
Yes thats slow. But its 3G and he was probably inside of a mall. Which means he wouldnt get a good reception anyways.
I dont know what this guy was expecting. Everyone knows 3G is slow. And everyone knows that speedtest.net is actually REALLY inacurrate a lot of times. If someone doesn't know at least those two things, they really shouldnt be blogging about the wireless industry.
12. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 15:25 0 0
I used speakeasy.net for the Verizon test. What is nice about speakeasy.net is that they have multiple servers that can be accessed for the speed test. The San Francisco server was closest, so I used that server for the test.
If you want to apologize for slow network speed, that is your choice. The wireless carriers are making claims about network speed and how 4G is so much faster than 3G. That may or may not be the circumstance. I certainly would not pay extra for a slower (or non-existent) network.
15. Sara (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 16:22 0 0
I assume 4G means the IPhone will be with Verizon as told by Phone Arena, in Dec. '10-or will it be at Verizon in Jan.'11? I am waiting for this IPhone to upgrade. Please let me know the latest release date..... SARA---in the Lower East Side of NYC
16. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 16:28 0 0
4G has no relation to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is the 4th edition on the iPhone. Whether the iPhone 4 is available on Verizon is an issue between Apple, AT&T (there is an exclusive distribution agreement between Apple and AT&T) and Verizon. Most pundits say the exclusive agreement between Apple and AT&T expires some time in 2011. If there is no announcement by Verizon of the iPhone 4 being available on their network by end of 1Q (March 31st) 2011, it probably won't be available for the rest of 2011.
26. mr. droid posted on 24 Nov 2010, 00:03 0 0
the iPhone is NOT a 4G phone. its simply 4th Generation. it is a 3G phone still.
19. skymitch89 posted on 23 Nov 2010, 20:11 0 0
LTE is an entry level 4th generation technology, so, even though it doesn't meet the speed requirements, it is still a 4G network. Those speeds are test speeds, which are usually higher than real world, there is always the possibility that the real world speed could be higher. I read that Verizon LTE was supposed to offer about 4x that of Sprint WiMax, (Instead of 3-6Mbps, it would get 12-24Mbps)
I take it that Verizon 4G launch is really near? Are these supposed to be micro-SIM or mini-SIM?
23. clevername posted on 23 Nov 2010, 21:23 0 0
I'm gonna take an educated guess here but if the whole card cutout is the size of a credit card like every other sim cards is then I would say it's too big to be micro sim. So mini sim is my answer/guess.
20. Your Mom (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 20:28 0 0
Whomever wrote this article is a pompous elitist dick. 4Gish LTE? so get ready for real-life download rates from 625 KBps to 1.5 MBps. Actually, the technology is capable of delivering much more, with initial tests showing download rates boom to 28 Mbps, but traffic congestion will slow it down significantly? And the horse you rode here on, son. Dick....
21. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 23 Nov 2010, 20:35 0 0
I too was a bit surprised by the article telling us to get ready for download rates from 625 kbps to 1.5 mbps. If that is truly what should be expected from Verizon's 4G network, I have no need to 'upgrade' to 4G as I can get those speeds out of 3G for the most part (other than near Verizon stores in malls :-) ) already....
27. g (unregistered) posted on 24 Nov 2010, 02:00 0 0
what it says is 600 to 1.5 megabytes not bits, there's a world of difference and you dont get even close to 600 kilobytes on 3g
28. Droid X Doug (unregistered) posted on 24 Nov 2010, 13:23 0 0
@g could you provide a citation for your claim that the article was saying bytes instead of bits? Network speed ratings are generally referred to in bits, because binary digits are what are being moved.
30. g (unregistered) posted on 01 Dec 2010, 02:22 0 0
Bytes are written with a capital B, while bits are usually reffered to with a lower-case b. And yeah bits bytes all is being moved, but when you download a song you see the traffic in bytes