2014 'mini' flagship versions roundup: which one would you get?
0. phoneArena 01 Jul 2014, 06:47 posted on
We are ganging up all the current 2014-crop minis, like the S5 mini, Z1 Compact, or the One mini 2, and by the time you reach the last one, it becomes abundantly clear why manufacturers are doing this drill each and every time now. Check the list out, vote which one would you pick, and tell us what is your opinion on the "mini" craze in the comment...
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9. xperian (Posts: 183; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
Why? Z1 compact is cheaper and much better. There is no reason to get s5 mini unless you are samsung fanboy
13. tech2 (Posts: 3004; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
What if he prefers an Amoled screen over a LCD display ? or he wants a removable battery ?
Its his opinion, choice and money. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't give you right to call him a fanboy.
15. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Nobody would ever compromise so much just for a not necessarily better AMOLED or removable battery. But for a Samsung logo? Maybe.
22. tech2 (Posts: 3004; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Like I said its his CHOICE and his money don't be so quick to pass a judgement and label him as you aren't aware of his preferences.
E.g.: He may need to travel a lot and probably prefers to swap the battery (which Z1 Compact can't). In this case, he may not need a powerful processor but a phone with removable battery. Not mention Amoled panel will also offer better sun light readability.
Its a diverse world.
32. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
It would still be a too big of a compromise. Z1 Compact still has one of the best battery life and removable battery can be replaced with external battery for example if it's such an important thing. And yes while AMOELD reflects less light, the difference would be minimal and besides we don't even know yet if the S5 Mini's display is any good.
35. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9846; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Clearly you don't understand the meaning of choice. I'd pick the S5 Mini over the Z1C due to Sony's ugly UI. UPSM and removable battery. Those are enough reasons for me to spend my money, not yours, on a phone.
39. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
How often do you charge your phone? And how often do you really use UPSM?
58. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9846; Member since: 14 May 2012)
On my S5, once every two days. I turn UPSM when I know I'm not going to use it and at night. I honestly miss my S5 and consider going back.
61. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
But does the UPSM benefit if the phone is in idle? I mean isn't it supposed to help on screen time?
And wait wait.. You don't have your S5 anymore? Or you're just not using it?
62. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9846; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I switched to the M8 and probably switching back when Samsung gives back my S5. UPSM virtually uses 0 battery when the phone is idle. I would turn it on at night at 50% and nine hours later it's still on 50. It's literally the greatest thing to happen for battery advancement.
41. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
I would for a AMOLED. :)
Maybe he would prefer Samsung for a more stable software, better customer support, frequent updates. Everybody has preferences.
43. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
But I mean the device is just not on par.
*giggle* more stable software *giggle*
49. T.Law (Posts: 404; Member since: 10 May 2014)
Give us a break, man. You're trying to hard.
52. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Ok sorry I'll try to try less in the future.
51. josephnero (Posts: 498; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
yeah.crapwiz on my S4 is damn stable.
64. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
A lot more stable than what your beloved Sony offers.... I hear horrible stories of sony bugs everyday. Also the seemingly better spec package tempted me to recommend Sony phones over Samsung's to my close ones(xperia z to uncle, xperia sola to sister)..... Now they both are bashing me for those horrible phones....
66. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
At least on the Z2 there's not a single bug I've seen.
Wow they must be quite mean. Bashing you just because they didn't test what the bought... And anyway saying they are horrible phones? Yeah niiice try...
68. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
So, why did both Z and Sola eventually started outing horrible battery life? Why they overheat?, why the 13mp camera has such a terrible image quality? why the Z's glass back has a large scar-like crack without a drop? Why the rubber flap wore out in 6 months? Ask them how horrible bugs(including a reboot everyday) came after the android update(4.0 destroyed Sola, kitkat is still buggy for Z, though the 4.2 was simply terrible).
70. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Sounds like any other Android phone.
As for those cracks, there is explanation for them. Or do you think it just suddenly cracked while it was on the table? And you probably don't spy on your uncle 24/7. He might have dropped it. Something might have hit it.
What I find interesting that so many people rage about how horrible Sony products are, but when I buy that product there's nothing wrong in them. Does Sony make working products only for me or what? I don't think so. I don't trust what the internet says. .
73. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Sounds like any other android device... I have two droid devices near me, they are helluva stable....okay forget the crack story, wut about other issues. Also you have just got your z2, wait for a sony update and z3 release, lets see how sony treats your z2.
You know what, you simply hate samsung, thinking how these ugly phones sell more than your beloved sony, User Experience and brand recognition!
Seriously get out of this delusion, I was like you when the S3 released(yet owning an s2)... I thought why people dont buy one x instead of this ugly phone, but I'm glad for them now, atleast they are not left out, another example... Sony midrangers having better looks and specs than galaxies yet they don't sell.... Because xperias have inferior displays and cameras despite better resolutions.
Sorry for the long post, but i hope it enlightens your teen mind. :)
74. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Nah I don't mind reading :)
I'm actually very curious to see how my Z2 is going to recieve updates and whether they're gonna be stable or not. One thing I know that right now it's as stable as it can be. Also it seems that Sonys stepping up the updates since Z Ultra, Z1 and Z1 Compact already got 4.4.4.
Is not really that I hate samsung. Yes I think their phones suck. Mainly because of design and UI and the extra features they have are not important for me at all. Like the fingerprint or heart rate stuff. For me stereo speakers and noice cancelling are a lot more useful in day to day use. Of course they work fine.
76. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Good that it somewhat enlightened you. :)
75. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
And as for that worn out flap I just wanted to say that my previous phone (Nokia N9) had a USB cover flap. In literally almost all N9 or Lumia 800 I see the flap is broken. I always wondered how's it even possible, cause my flap is still nicely in place and feels sturdy. It really depends on how you treat the device.
44. tokuzumi (Posts: 603; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
Some people just won't let go of phones with removable batteries. I remember the 2009-2011 timeframe, and people were up in arms that physical keyboard phones were disappearing. Those voices are mostly silent now (perhaps they just gave up, since no one was listening, or they found they were able to type just as well on an on screen keyboard - I don't know). Same way with the disappearance of expandable storage (although, this is making a comeback for the purposes of media storage). They may feel like something is being taken away from them, or just fear change. I personally haven't removed the battery from my S4 since I've had it. I have used a Nexus 5, and never had battery removal anxiety. I didn't even care that the storage was not expandable via SD card. But there's really no point to criticize someone else's phone choice. If it works for them, that's all that matters. If you didn't pay for it, it doesn't matter.
23. tech2 (Posts: 3004; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Ask the 200 million Galaxy S customers.
30. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
They would give the same answer as you since you're one of them, right?
33. tech2 (Posts: 3004; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Nope. I own a Moto G (only for few months tho) and an iPad Air. Both of which are LCDs.
34. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Why don't you own a Samsung you always praise them so much?
92. EDMatt (Posts: 1; Member since: 21 Nov 2014)
Samsung is in many ways just like apple. Brand loyalty blinds their customers from considering other brands offering better quality. I'm not saying Samsung is better than Sony at all, BUT, when I decided to purchase a new phone this week I considered all options available to me.
I read many reviews and comparisons. Many people here say that the S5 mini's AMOLED display is better in daylight, but according to the comparisons, Z1c is better in this category too...
29. Awalker (Posts: 982; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
The amoled screens make colors more vibrant and blacks are actually black. It's the only thing I like about Samsung phones.
87. Leo_MC (Posts: 692; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
But any other color looks like a cartoon...
Am I to understand people like cartoons?
42. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Why would anyone prefer a 640p display over 1080p?
46. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Requires less processing power and used less battery etc.
69. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Yet every current android flagships offer way better battery life than iphones! Lame excuse.
71. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
I wasn't defending the iPhone. iPhone has a miniature battery. But what I meant in general if you'd put a 640p screen on any Android flagship, they would perform even faster and have better battery life.
19. akki20892 (Posts: 3795; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
He didn't mentioned, so he is fan.
Fact is fact...
Z1 compact is better choice, waterproof, great design and quality, best camera, battery life is good, screen is great, etc......
45. akki20892 (Posts: 3795; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Yeppp....I totally forgot this.... Price is main reason to buy.
47. riachu81 (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Nov 2012)
I had a Samsung s3, s4 mini and switched to a Sony Zr, which I'm still currently using. I won't buy the Compact Z1 because it doesn't have a removable battery. I'm constantly on my phone all day and don't want to compromise or have to constantly be careful of battery life. I simply open the back and chuck a new battery in.
Bring on the s5 mini.
I only hope the processor is powerful enough
77. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7035; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
and it's water proof. not to menetion its 20MP camera.
24. enthasuium (Posts: 120; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
agree, it has unique features which others dont
63. RuiBacelar (Posts: 152; Member since: 25 Feb 2014)
Xperia Z1 compact is the only mini version wich is actually better than the bigger, original version, per example the screen.
plus it's cheaper than the almost 500€ S5 mini.
72. flipjzn (Posts: 201; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
Samsung minis are always last to get the latest android update.
I have the s4 and still no kitkat for 5 months now still on 4.2
So think again.
2. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
So long and yet still the King in Mini! Z1 Compact:)
3. adwienc (Posts: 136; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)
Stupid question, of course Z1C will win, but Nubia is nice, only it shouldn't have "mini" in name. 4.7" is not mini.
6. LikeMyself (Posts: 383; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
All above average Sony phones(T, Z, ZR) irrespective of year released are $800+ in my country!
With the One Mini 2, at least you get an uncommon sexy phone in your hands to look as all these minis use poor Snapdragon 400!
But I'll take the Moto G 4G when it becomes available worldwide.
11. ColinW (Posts: 47; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)
I guess the iPhone is not included here as it is too small!
12. Planterz (Posts: 1639; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
The Sony Z1 Compact is the only "mini" worthy of its big brother's name. All the rest have neutered specs, while the Z1 is every bit the beast the full-sized one is (even moreso, since the lower-res screen means everything runs even faster).
Frankly, I think a Z2 Compact would be kinda pointless, since the Z1 Compact is such a high performer. An 801 and 3GB RAM might be wasted on a 720p screen. But if they can make it (or the Z3 Compact) with a 1080p 4.5-4.7" screen, that'd be awesome.
31. tasior (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
"An 801 and 3GB RAM might be wasted on a 720p screen."
That's interesting thought... Mainly because, I have entirely opposite view on the subject. I feel that 801 is usually wasted on 1080p (and recently above) screens. I mean, instead of using this power, to make everything working smoother, and do even more advanced tasks, processing power is wasted on calculating colours of milions of pixels, that human eye is unable to see from normal viewing distance...
84. osbert (Posts: 96; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Absolutely this! a 720p screen with more grunt under the hood. As far as this poll goes though, definitely a Z2 compact, don't want a crippled snapdragon 400 and want the fixed camera issues from the z2 compared to the z1
14. ancellim (Posts: 34; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)
In my country, Z1C costs the same as Z1, $798, One mini and S5 mini costs about $500.