10.1-inch Nokia Sirius Windows RT tablet to be unveiled Sept 26: priced like an iPad
0. phoneArena 26 Aug 2013, 09:09 posted on
Rumors about a Nokia Windows RT tablet have been flying around for months on end, and now sources in the know have confirmed that the device is real…
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1. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)
They should release a 8 inch RT tablet at $349 and 10 inch Bay trail Windows 8 tablet for $499.
That will give them a good chance of succeeding against both iPAD mini and regular iPAD.
7. kalandershihab (Posts: 57; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
Nokia makes a Windows RT tablet and thus, windows RT becomes "acceptable"
ehem ehem windows phone 7
22. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1384; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Everything looks cool (design,specs) except price and RT.
I know a tablet with snapdragon 800 will cost alot but I think they should take Google's approach on nexus 7.
RT is kinda flop , there is no key factor for customers to switch from ios & android tabs.
i would like to see a Lumia tablet with full blown windows 8.
23. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1384; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
And their awesome camera tech cant shines on tablets field.
because people barely use tablet for taking pictures.
may be app exclusive can help
59. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
haters just know the nokia's cam for amazingness, can't really blame you people, i could just imagine how jealousy of the nokia's cam technology can bring on that hatred. But before we all go down to that, this is nokia we're talking about, and everybody knows how innovative nokia be with it's products. Here are probably some of nokia's innovation that they can actually use on this phablet:
- Synaptics tech for that glove-friendly touchscreen
- Clear black display
- Nokia Maps, unlike Android...it's free, and unlike ios...it just works
- Nokia City Lens, which would be just beautiful on a phablet
- nokia's utter indestructibility, not like cheap plastic construction of other
- wireless charging
- fm transmitter
- and yes, i'd hate to mention it, but even if the put the n8 cam on this, it would still be better than the competitions' recent ones....
31. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1529; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
why does everyone assume Windows RT will forever be a Flop. I remember when Android tablets first came out to be frank with you they just plan STANK their touch screen response stank .they did not have many Apps they were not any good against the Ipad but Google hung in their and worked out the Androids faults and it got more APPS.I think the same thing will happen with the Windows Rt tablet OS if Microsoft Sticks buy the product like Google did with it's Android tablets and by the way you will get a MS office suite with a Windows Rt tablet you do not get that with any Android tablet so right out of the box you can use a Windows Rt tablet for office work.
47. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
RT may not forever be a flop, but one must question why they don't instead put their focus entirely on getting full Windows tablets down in price. RT is an iPad equivalent with perhaps slightly more functionality, but is entirely app/marketplace driven. I don't think RT can now or will ever be able to compete head to head with the iPad on an app-driven model alone.
Full Windows provides that needed differentiation to create a compelling story for why you should go with a Microsoft based tablet. And, clearly, W8 Pro is better than RT in every imaginable way (given hardware capable of running W8 Pro). So, in my opinion, they should literally ditch RT and focus on getting Windows tablets down to the iPad price point.
60. sgodsell (Posts: 3324; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
That's why android quickly dropped honeycomb, and quickly went to Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) to merge tablet and phone. Making Android like iOS where the apps are interchangeable was a wise move for android. Btw You can get a ton of office products and now Microsoft office 365 for android all on the Google store. You can pick up a Bluetooth keyboard for $29 if you really want one for android. Price dictates a lot.
32. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I don't think any company can take the Google approach, not even Apple. Apple doesn't make enough money from the appstore to justify not making a profit.
Amazon is probably the only other company that can take the Google approach.
39. Commentator (Posts: 3669; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Apple absolutely would still make a profit if they sold it at a loss, they make plenty from their App Store. Selling it for so cheap would ruin their brand-image though. Look at the iPad Mini: they still sold it for $320 base price, when Google and Amazon would've sold a similar-specced device for $100 less. Apple needs to maintain its "high-quality" appearance for its own sake, whereas Google and Amazon don't seem too concerned with their perception.
58. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
LOL The ipad mini isn't expensive at all. they make a crap load of profit with the low rez screen and same CPU as the ipad 2.
55. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Nokia souldn't make RT at all. Though, RT is better than the phone iOS , it's still a toy OS.
Windows 8 will kill RT. W8 soon gonna kill iOS too.
W8 is here to kill the toys, or to put them in the kid-stores where they belong. Sorry iboys, but soon or later Apple will follow(steal like an artist) the W8 concept.
61. sgodsell (Posts: 3324; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
People are waking up and for the majority of people they realize they don't need a full blown OS to get work done, bank, play games, surf the web, watch movies, TV, Netflix, YouTube, play music, social media, .... All this can be done on android and iOS. I would even say they do it better than Windows, never mind RT.
2. jove39 (Posts: 1824; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Good luck nokia...you are trying to compete against well established product without any price advantage for customers.Windows RT is not enough for anyone to switch from android or iOS...you need to understand market dynamics...people don't want your products to fail like Surface RT.
14. jedpatrickdatu (Posts: 167; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
I agree. The only way I see an RT tablet succeeding is with a very low price tag. That's why RT exists in the first place, because it runs on cheaper ARM CPUs. I fear Sirius will be another Surface RT.
18. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
for how much can you get a S800 tablet ?
for instance the Sony Xperia Tablet Z LTE is $600 and has a S4 Pro , not the s800
43. jove39 (Posts: 1824; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
How many people you see around with xperia z tablet? Just compare its sales number to Nexus 7 (ignore screen size here)
49. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
on of the reasons the nexus 7 sell that much is because of the screen size.
46. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
hold on hold on buddy....Win8 is coming....wait and watch.
4. red_fox (unregistered)
RT? really? should have gone with with Windows 8 instead.
5. Blazers (Posts: 424; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Windows 8 would have been worth it, but not RT.
6. boosook (Posts: 1429; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
So that's where the unsold Surface tablets have gone... ;)
This is a very risky move from Nokia... big names like Asus and Acer were not able to sell their Windows RT tablets and said more than once that they won't probably make any new WinRT tablet because they don't sell. Microsoft... well, we all know that Surface RT tablets are still lying on the shelves. Many analysts have sentenced Windows RT already dead, so not only Nokia arrives late to the market, but with an OS that the market has already rejected. Please note that they are not the same situation as when they chose WP over Android, because at that time they could at least hope that WP would become successful. It didn't happen (at least, yet...), but still they sold enough Lumias to survive. This time they are choosing an OS which has already been rejected by the market: why? How is this possible? The person who chose this strategy (probably Elop, since this is probably the last desperate attempt by Microsoft to sell Windows RT stuff) is putting Nokia in great danger.
12. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Acer , they didn't even made one.
As for Asus and Samsung they can go to hell , $600 for a tegra 3 tablet with HD screen ? not even Steve Jobs could have sold that one...
15. alumoyo (Posts: 348; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
Its a decision that seems to put Microsoft's interests first, Nokia second. It was the same with the switch from WP7 to WP8, when all those users were left stranded. Even though they survived and it all worked out, that situation put Nokia in danger way more than Microsoft.
Mr Elop, who do you REALLY work for?
8. raj1402 (Posts: 6; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)
7" and 8" with win RT and 10.1 inch with Win 8 would have been better choice!!!
9. FadyNabil (Posts: 39; Member since: 10 May 2013)
Windows RT is a wonderfull product, just give it time to succeed,
Asus and Acer are not even trying, they waited for the product to fail then say oh Windows RT no body wants it! this is not a good strategy.
Windows RT is a far better and more advanced from IOS and Android. just wait one year, any new product needs time.
13. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 885; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
But pricing it like the ipad is a very bad move. You need to give people incentive to jump ship from established products because they are already heavily invested in it. Unless this comes with a $100 gift certificate in the app store I don't see many buying this as can be seen with all the other RT tablets not being sold at the moment.
10. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
Great now this will be Nokia's version of the Surface RT...hopefull for Nokia will push elop out...
11. alumoyo (Posts: 348; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
Dear Nokia - AT WHAT POINT will you wake up and decide to STOP being Microsoft's b*#ch. First, with windows phone, Microsoft decided to make windows phone 8 and leave all windows phone 7 users with no upgrade pathway towards WP8. Those were YOUR Lumia 800 and 900 customers. YOU JUST LAY DOWN AN TOOK IT. They played their little experiment with YOUR CUSTOMERS. I'm sure it was your reputation which took the bigger knock among disgruntled users. But now here you are, making a tablet for an OS which is a failure - where Microsoft themselves failed miserably and had to write off nearly a billion dollars! AT WHAT POINT NOKIA???
16. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
"Microsoft decided to make windows phone 8 and leave all windows phone 7 users with no upgrade pathway towards WP8 "
So, you don't know sh*t of what really happen...
25. alumoyo (Posts: 348; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
I KNOW they got the 7.8 update - I KNOW that Microsoft said that the hardware existing at the time could not support the new WP8; that it was new from the ground up and built on an entirely different architecture. But that 7.8 update was nothing more than a consolation prize - simple appeasement, NOTHING MORE: and not much consolation for users who had JUST BOUGHT their Lumia 900s. Because more effort would still go towards WP8 - more developers would make apps for WP8. And thats how it turned out. Have YOU read any news about forthcoming WP7.8 updates recently??? Many new apps I've seen can't even support 512mb WP8 devices at first, you seriously think anybody is worrying about the WP7 crowd right now? Thats the point I'm making!
35. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
they had to made the change, to get WP to the same kernel as Windows 8 and windows RT, to get compatibility between platforms (easier ports and most likely single unified OS in the future)
WP7 updates are unlikely to come, for those how bought a high end phones got a bit screwed.
But on android toy don't get much better support (unless it's a nexus)
as for the 512MB support
19. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Windows 8 tablet > Windows RT tablet > android tablet > LeapFrog tablet > ipad
29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Windows 8 Tablet > Android Tablet / iPad > Windows RT Tablet > Other
40. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
IPAD = Android tablet> Any things windows can ever be on a tablet
21. RomeoJDR (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
$500 for an RT tablet = FAIL. Nokia is gaining a bit too much confidence back in their brand recognition. Part of their success in the phone platform has been their products have been offered cheaper through carriers than their Android and iOS equivalents.
24. papss (unregistered)
Love everything about this tablet if the rumors are true other than RT..they are going to have to come out with something compelling to convince me that RT is good. Don't get me wrong, I love my pro but rt? Not so sure this is a good move.
51. Pdubb (Posts: 248; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
I wonder if the RT mive was for battery life mainly? If so that makes a littke sense, if not I'm lost as well.
26. McLTE (Posts: 806; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Really Nokia? REALLY?
Is there nobody ANYWHERE in the decision making chain that sense enough to look at all the market data out there and STOP with the RT disaster before it's too late?
Make a full win 8 tablet for iPad prices and I'm sold.. I'd gladly pick up a Nokia tablet for that kind of money..for RT? NO WAY.
This has epic fail written all over it.
28. DKMDROID (Posts: 103; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
Jokes aside though RT is old and cold and theres no real point to it so Nokia please dont make this
30. UdhaiyaPrasanth (Posts: 76; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Nokia's new tagline should be: If there's an easy way to achieve a decent marketshare, then why try it that way? (we'll take the harder route!)
33. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
We need an i5 level tablet that is about the size of a 10 inch tablet with Windows 8 and a keyboard attachment. Whoever does it first will have a huge hit on their hands.
34. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1529; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I Still think Nokia has a Windows 8 tablet set up to come out and will probably just make a few Windows RT tablets to use up the Windows RT licenses they already bought from Microsoft.
36. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
Priced like a iPad, fail like a touch pad. No one wants RT!!!!
37. cdgoin (Posts: 511; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
They should drop the "Phone" and "RT".. it should just merge it into "Windows Mobile" ( Or a similar name.. I think mobile would work.. as only true geeks would remember that name ). If RT was "Dropped" and they made all Windows Phone Apps work on RT (They should be able too..) then they need to drop RT and just have a "Mobile" OS and a Desktop OS.. That's how Apple is seen.. and its not a problem. The problem with MS is that has three OSs' and not all apps currently work on all three.. thats simply one too many.
42. shamataa (Posts: 214; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
why RT version for that price tag? I don't see this being a huge seller. If it was the full version maybe.
44. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
DOA. Specs sound very good on paper but it’s running Windows RT. If this was running Android, Nokia would be a serious player. But RT has to rank right up there with Windows ME and Windows Vista as being the worst OS Microsoft has released. Running RT is like running a gimped version of Windows 8 with no legacy support. We need more powerful Atom processors in full Windows 8 tablets.
45. tigermcm (Posts: 851; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
I wont apologize for this but Microsoft and Nokia are smoking something. RT tablets should NEVER pass $400. how is it that Acer put out a full blown Win8 8 inch for $370 without a prob? For those that keep saying RT is a flop, failure, blah blah blah do ipads run all the same programs as macs? do android tabs run the same programs as PC or Ubuntu? didn't think so, in other words they all run apps apps apps which is what Rt runs plus Office so shut up
48. Jobayer (Posts: 167; Member since: 22 Feb 2013)
dude , most apps in Android smartphones runs in tabs unlike windows RT and phone .
50. Sureal (Posts: 38; Member since: 31 Jan 2010)
ill be that guy, im buying this the day it comes out
everyone that complains about the app ecosystem, you do remember that a. everyone has to start somewhere, b. the original iphone didnt even have an app store, let alone any apps, c. anyone that actually uses windows 8 (and doesnt complain about it without using it) will flock to windows 8 rt tablets once they realize what they can do with all the interconnectivity
in my opinion hating on other operating systems just because YOU dont like it, is petty, despite what you may think, there are more people in the world than just you
52. downphoenix (Posts: 3155; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
If it was Ipad mini-like pricing, it could have been a runaway hit.
At the current price point... although honestly it is a good price for the specs you're getting, I just cant see it being a big seller.
53. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2155; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
I will run right out and grab a WinRT tablet, said nobody ever.