21 Aug 2008

VZW never takes wifi out of smartphones. Where the hell are all of you people getting this from!? Did they remove it from the i760? Nope. The 6800? Nope. The 6700? Nah. How about the 6600? I think not. It bothers me when people run around making false claims because they don't bother to do any research first. You should never have expected the Dare to have wifi as it is NOT a smartphone and was never intended to be. At its core it is really no different from a Voyager, enV, Chocolate, RAZR, etc. When will people figure that out???

25 Jul 2008

I agree with most of what you said. By far my biggest problem with this comparison is the discrepancy between the individual products ratings and the ratings within this review. Another problem that I have with this comparison is that in more than one category the iPhone is excused for lackluster performance without much reason as to why. The most obvious example of this is the mention of the severe software issues.

I do not feel that it is fair to call this comparison "crap" or "bull****", but I do believe that certain parts of it are extremely inaccurate (particularly the Dare's touchscreen being unusable, as that is entirely false). BTW, I am a proud owner of both a Dare and an iPod Touch and can honestly say that while both are incredible devices, neither is even close to perfect.

Thank you Phone Arena for putting this comparison together. I just hope that next time, as I said before, there can be at least a little bit of consistency between individual ratings and comparison ratings.

22 Jun 2008

If you buy the Dare in the store, you will receive a $50 mail-in rebate so ultimately the phone is the same price whether you buy in online in a store.

22 Jun 2008

False. The Dare has a lot of features that the Prada could never have dreamed of having. It is actually a lot closer to the Viewty, but still it is its own entity.

21 Jun 2008

The Voyager's touchscreen is not heat sensitive. It is pressure sensitive. Where did you get that from?

20 Jun 2008

Agreed about the Thunder. I think it is a great idea to go for the whole best of both worlds approach.

19 Jun 2008

The fact that you say you know very few people who don't use their phones at some point or another to check email tells me that you are probably in a profession that necessitates such behavior, but you must realize that not everyone is. There is a very large number of people who truly only use their phones to make calls and text, and have no interest in doing much else with their phones. If you think about it, most people in America with cell phones do not own smartphones (seriously, go out tomorrow and count the number of smartphones you see compared to non-smartphones). Many of the features that you believe to be necessary in a phone today are features that tend to only exist in smartphones, and many many people have absolutely no desire to learn how to use smartphones which many find too complicated. Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe that every phone should be as functional as possible and I think would be great if VZW did include these features in feature phones, especially the Dare just because it does already have so many features, but I also realize that most people are not begging for advanced features. And remember, it's not just VZW that excludes the ability to sync with Outlook, etc. Can you honestly name 5 non-smartphones from the other 3 major carriers that do have this ability? I doubt it. I think the problem here is that you are failing to understand that some phones are smartphones aimed at business users with syncing abilities and advanced abilities, such as Blackberries and even the iPhone, whereas others are meant to be feature phones, appealing to much broader audiences, such as the Dare and nearly every other non-smartphone from every carrier. Like I said before, I think it would be fantastic if the Dare was more advanced, and I would even prefer that, but if it were too much more advanced it would be approaching smartphone territory, which would ultimately scare quite a few potential buyers away, just due to the nature of being a smartphone. That's just how I feel. I think if you would open your mind just a little more, you would better understand what I'm trying to say.

19 Jun 2008

Except in the case of the Glyde, which is an absolute disaster.

19 Jun 2008

VZW reps aren't typically informed about upcoming phones until right before they are released. Even though the info is there for them to find, most of them don't care enough to find out.

19 Jun 2008

You guys have to realize that although there are more and more people syncing with Outlook and using their phones for more business related purposes everyday, the vast majority of Americans have no desire whatsoever to use their phones for these things. It's all about how phones look right now, not so much what they can do. You need to remember that just because something is important to you doesn't mean that it is important to everyone. And for the record, the Dare was never officially referred to as an "iPhone killer" (a term that I am horribly tired of hearing). People just made that assumption based on the fact that the Dare is a full touchscreen device. People need to start accepting that not every touchscreen phone is trying to compete with the iPhone. It is just a case of technology moving toward touchscreen phones becoming a standard.