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More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

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Published on: 05 August, 2008 by Nanko Rusev

More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

We have new information about the Touch Diamond (called Victor and Diamond) and its QWERTY sibling (the Herman and Raphael) which are expected with Sprint and Verizon Wireless ...

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About the ISM. The original touch diamond had 32mb alotted to help the video acceleration. My guess is since verizon has a weaker processor, they have more to make up for that loss.
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I think the ISM (which I believe is Internal system memory) is something along the lines of Processor Cache sizes on standard computers i.e. 1.5GHZ with 16MB cache. So yeah I think you're right.
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ok I'ma make this very simple to everyone here bickering about the 2 companies and who has a bigger e-peen etc. Alot of sprint people are stating that Sprint actually cares for their customers in regards to providing them with handsets that are not changed in anyway from their original versions etc etc.

While I might agree with this to a certain extent, I do not agree that they ACTUALLY care. If they actually cared, don't you think they would have addressed their network, customer svc, outsourced tech support, bad company decision making, etc etc waaaay before they decided to focus on making a consumer happy based on their handsets???

It's an old marketing strategy, and unfortunately it still works well here in the US. Us as in US citizens, tend to want the best looking devices and the high tech toys regardless of use for the sole purpose of saying "yes, I have that phone"

I can't count how many times customers come into my location looking for a Bluetooth headset just based on its looks and don't care anything about the quality of the headset. It is this same concept that is keeping Sprint afloat. They take the above issues I mentioned and compare them cost whise vs better handsets and whalla, they take the cheaper route which is obviously catering to the US market by making handsets as they were intended by the manufacturer and at certain points even adding better features.

This will only work for a small amount of time, its more like a temporary fix to their increasing churn rates, bad network, low penetrating frequency etc.

If people want to say that Verizon cripples some handsets, I agree with that, they do sometimes make them work in favor of being able to sell their own products as opposed to ones offered from the device initially with the manufacturer's standard build. But honestly, what company doesn't do this to a certain extent. It is there type of changes that position a company in trend to accumulate the wealth to later make changes and adapt more to consumer preference. I believe in devices that work, do what they are intended to do, and anything extra is a given.

Had Sprint not purchased Nextel and actually budgeted to make improvements to the network to stay close to Verizon, they definately would receive some merit from myself, but at this point, I don't care if they have a bit more memory on a handset or a certain feature that was initially intended for the handset, that isn't going to break my choice in regards to which company I want to have and it isn't going to change the minds of the majority either.

I feel for Sprint in the sense that they honestly have no control of their future atm, but at least they are commited in offering a phone with the same specifications intended for that device upon release. With that said, good going with the new device launches and the future device launches, its honestly going to take a huge overhaul to even become a major competitor in the wireless industry again, and selling off nextel, pretty phones isn't going to make it any better.

For those that hate on Verizon for their so called crippled handsets, you have a right to chose, and if you chose good looking handset over better service overall, then you my friend might be one of my future bluetooth customers, and yes, I have a great looking model waiting to add that look to either one of your beautiful earlobes.

- Verizon Wireless Data Consultant
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change your username to FANBOY in the interest of disclosure.
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lol, it never ends....
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It's voila! not whalla....consultant? I won't even go into the typos.
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it's an internet forum. PPL CAN SPEL LIIKE SHIITE ALL THEYE WAHNT!!! Play some video games or do a crossword instead of pointing out typos on the internet.
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Those pages look like they were scanned from a Playbook.
But our current sprint playbook, doesn't have that info in it.
Possibly next week's playbook will.
There's info in this week's that point to this realease and info about it.
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I am finding out where my buddy got the document from in his intranet, when I find out I will let everyone know.
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to top it off.
What are the chances that BOTH carries and DEVICES are going to have huge software or hardware issues when they get released???
I won't be the first to own either.

And some more interesting info I just found.
The MOGUL from sprint will no longer be availble for ordering in SEPTEMBER.
Could it be because of the diamond, aka Herman/Victor??
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you must be retarded. this phone has been out for a couple of months in europe and has also recently had a rom upgrade. so lower the odds to about your iq and you will see that your entire post is stupid.
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I hate ppl who attack other ppls post like that. Just shut up and let ppl talk. The firmware is completely different for US phones, you tool, so it makes no difference what europe has. I would get the phone when it launches because it usually takes less than a quarter for a ROM update to launch. And I believe the answer for the September date you mentioned is : Yes, similar to the 6700 discontinuation with the launch of the 6800 mogul.
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then dont attack posts that are based on fact you idiot. what a stupid screen name.
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it's alot better than "anonymous" you "idiot".
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just because it is based on fact doesn't mean you need to call names. It just shows your lack of intelligence. And my screen name is based off of an inside joke which is not stupid to me.
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I think the phone itselft doesnt need an accelorometer. What for? so the screen switches orientation, when it can do the same thing by sliding the keyboard out.
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I agree, but that is in regards to the Raphael/Herman, not the Diamond/Victor which does not have a sliding keyboard.
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@owned
Can you also verify the RAM and the accuracy of the specs from that sheet?

@LessthanZach
You seemed to be pretty knowledgeable on Verizon-so, can you confirmed if Verizon will accept phones from Sprint to be used on their network? More specifically, can the Sprint Touch Pro version be used my a Verizon customer by calling customer service and adding the phone?
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No. This will not be able to happen until VZW opens its network as part of our Open Network program opening later this year. At that point, verizon will put phones from other networks through a mandatory testing period and if that phone passes preliminary tests then that model will be able to be added either online, in store, or over the phone. As of now, it is very rare to be able to add a competitors phone, but it is possible with some of the smaller companies phones; such as US Cellular
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@LessthanZach
You're right. I asked the same question to another VZW rep and they said the same thing. Your document is authentic. Which is bad news for me as a VZW customer. I was partial to the Touch Pro as my next phone. Without the Motion G sensor and low RAM & slower processor speed, I'm forced to get Sprint's version or wait for AT&T to get theirs (better coverage than Sprint). Thank you for your posts and shedding light on the confusion.
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Why not opt for the blackberry thunder instead? If you haven't tried a blackberry yet I would look into it. All touchscreen, accelerometer, brand new OS and WEBKIT built browser (same as safari mobile). The screen is going to be like an inch or more bigger than the HTC anyways. You're almost definitely going to get worse reception and I won't go into the customer service. No official word yet but the Thunder is supposed to be out before the end of the year. Just a thought....
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@LessThanZach
The Thunder looks like an amazing phone with the business features I need. Any more specs on the phone? Crackberry.com doesn't have anything on it. Email me offline @ mphayvanh at yahoo dot com.
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this site goes further and further downhill as the days pass. all the bickering and name calling...seriously?
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Wasn't Open Network supposed to happen months ago? I've been poking at a replacement for my i760 for months now, doing tons of research, and that's the chief obstacle to it.
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Certain phones have started to work on our network and I have seen some alltel acquisition accounts in our infodesk. But open network is not supposed to be official until 4Q
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This article is not accurate. Dont jump the gun folks.
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Can you provide something contrary to the sheet? Offline mphayvanh at yahoo dot com
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Does anyone know if there's gonna be a GSM version for U.S? or at least rumors or speculations? if so then which carrier is gonna offer it? i'm currently with tmobile but looking to switch to att. I'd prefer gsm cuz at least it can be unlocked and used with any gsm carriers. Thanks
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Check out this thread and you decide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
Leaked Touch Pro Rom for AT&T.
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