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More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

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Published on: 05 August, 2008 by Nanko Rusev

More information on Touch Diamond and Raphael for both Sprint and Verizon

We have new information about the Touch Diamond (called Victor and Diamond) and its QWERTY sibling (the Herman and Raphael) which are expected with Sprint and Verizon Wireless ...

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Hey so I have another noob question. Someone here said that Verizon nerf's it's phones so you can't use Wi-Fi on them. Is that also true with a Blackberry's on verizon? I was thinking about getting the Blackberry Bold for Verizon and that would be a huge negative if I couldn't get Wi-Fi on the Bold because Verizon wouldn't allow it.
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There are no official specs on the bold for vzw. Im really not too impressed with it and personally am waiting for the thunder. VZW does NOT nerf WiFi on its PDA's, our blackberries have never had wifi, only the GSM variants have.
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i'm wondering if the sprint version will retain the second camera in the front of the phone for video calls?
also, any idea as to the pricing for the "victor"? i wanna know how much my birthday present is going to cost. :p
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CDMA Does not support Video calls at current time because the technology does not support continuous voice calls and data calls at the same time. That's why we have seen the europeans phones with the dual cams for so long: because they use GSM witch supports Video calls. Kinda sucks....
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everyone should jus switch to sprint lol!!
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yea...that makes as much as swallowing glass. if u happen to be the 2 ppl in america that acutally like sprint, then by all means stay with them. but as a VZW customer for 6 yrs and a former Sprint employee, i have to be on the side of VZ on this one. Granted, some phones we get are a tamed version of the real thing, but they obviously do it for a reason. and no its not to piss us off or trap us in, it more than likely to keep improving on the network as a whole so u would be able to use the phone! that is the overall point of having a cellphone, right? or have we all forgotten that?
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As a VZW employee, I have to say that VZDub spends its money in its network. Pull the report and you will see that VZ spends more money than any other carrier in the US which is why we have the largest 3G network in america. ATT claims they do, but not in US, they are taking stats from all over the world. I'm too poor to travel so I could give a crap about worldwide 3g. We spend more money on our LG exclusive series such as ENV, Chocolate, Voyager and Dare, than we do on our blackberry and PDA line ups, that's a fact. I am waiting for the day Sprint just throws in the towel and VZ swallows them up. It can't be too far away. Out of all the carriers, I think they carry themselves with the same stature as Metro PCS, lol.
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Your delusional VZW has a better contract with LG and Better Cust Care.. The whole company sucks besides that.. They have a few more crippled LG phones who cares the chocolate 3 is a remix of a discontinued sprint phone for crying out loud.. You stay with your better customer care.. Ill take half off my bill..you take your bb thunder and Ill have my herman or victor which will be without a doubt the best two phones in the US.. And in So Cal Sprint has the fastest 3g vzw is right there but wimax will be out soon while you guys still wait for a solid LTE definition.. lol wimax is going to be so huge when it drops next year.. Nokia cant wait then sprint will have better device agreements than verizon anyway
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well...one thing i cant stand is a person who sits on these things and bashes VZW in an effort to make themselves feel better for having a second rate cell carrier like Sprint, especially when they have no clue what is going on on the inside of that company. now im not an expert, but I along with many other Sprint employees saw this whole thing coming along time ago (by thing i mean Sprint's demise!)

and if Sprint was so damn popular in SoCal, then why do u only see VZ and ATT customers there? All im saying is we cant take these documents as gospel bcuz Sprint is NOTORIOUS for lying and undercutting the competition to keep their customers roped in. We should just wait to see when each company acutally rolls out with their respective products and releases proper info about them.. AND AGAIN....this is coming from a former employee of sprint( who quit....so no im not disgruntled) and a customer of Vdub for a very long time.
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Im not bashing vzw my post was unbiased facts.. lol if i was rich I might consider VZW but today on sprint I can afford two phones for less than one on VZW or At&t.. and If I was rich I would definitely get a thunder or an iphone.. probably the thunder.. but Im not so Im on sprint with my mogul and I am almost completely satisfied.. the cust care is probably worse than you heard honestly but two phones for the price of one.. The best wm devices, 4g network almost done (nokia cant wait I might add), fastest 3g network ( I dont care about where you live yes in SoCal sprint has been the best), and most people I know have sprint or boost or nextel or virgin so mobile to mobile is covered nicely.. I do know lots with vzw and Id take a dare before an instinct but really sprint is a no brainer I have a wireless 3g wifi modem for 29.99 a month with text and 500 mins
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LessthanZack you make Verizon employees look so uninformed...youre information is fabricated.plain and simple. for you to say that ATT spends money on worldwide 3g technology makes no sense. why would ATT (an american company) invest in other countries network, sure their phones work over seas but its not their network. As for the whole investment in phones comment...you do realize that Blackberry is the best selling PDA not only in the american market but for Verizon.
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So do you think that ATT uses towers in other countries for free?? You're a tool. Yes BB is our best selling PDA, but do you see VZW spending money on exclusives of blackberries?? NO. We get the same sh** that GSM carriers had a year ago from blackberry (until the thunder). So obviously we don't invest as much money in that dept. as we do with our exclusive LG handsets (the dare, Env, etc) which was the whole point of my post. So go make our company look like crap with your anger problems. I happen to be the go-to rep in my store for upcoming phones and general phone know-how. I'm not bragging, I just don't appreciate or understand why another VZW REP would attack my post. Good show, good show
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just because a carrier utilitzes ANOTHER carrier's tower does not mean they invest in that network...why would they invest in the competitions towers? the funny thing is that youre that one that seems to have aggression problems...i mean youre tone seems like you really offended by me pointing out your lack of knowledge. i dont care if youre the go to guy or a store mgr, it doesnt appear that you know what youre talking about...if youd like i can send you my ecode and you can look at my numbers...over 100% every month...winners circle for me AGAIN!
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Yeah, you're right! They don't invest in that network! I didn't say that they do. I simply said that they take their 3g network statistic for their worldwide coverage as a whole. Don't believe me LOOK AT MY POST. All I was stating was that VZW has the largest US 3G coverage area with over 85% of network blanketed with 3G. ATT only has 40-50% and that is on paper. Never did I say that ATT "Invests in other networks". I am just saying that PDAs our NOT OUR BIGGEST INVESTMENT as a company. I think anyone in this forum can understand that. We have awesome LG exclusives, not WINMO or PALM exclusives like the GSM carriers get. I just don't understand why you have to be an aggressor in an online forum for god's sakes. Doesn't make sense. And ppl wonder why someone gets defensive, it's because they are being called "uninformed" when their posts are taken out of context by their own cohorts.
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Yeah, can't use wifi on verizon, right......

6800, 6700, sam760, boy you got them there....

VZW UI? this is a pda idiots, where have you see the VZW UI on a pda? Nope, its all on normal phones, which is actually more varied and has more options these days. boy you sure got them there...

Yeah the RAM thing will suck IF its true, but there are some benefits to the VZW versions, more ISM memory on the cpu's and the diamond has a microsd slot instead of a fixed 4gb. Who knows this could also be bs anyways.

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I assure you it is not BS. My buddy Ken works for Sprint and I saw him print the document (displayed in the article) and I am the one who sent it to phonearena. If it changes later on, it was due to the companies changing their specs, not the inaccuracy of my information.
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stfu ur a liar!
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ACTUALLY...ur a liar. ive seen and been in contact with official Sprint documents when i was an employee there and those are NOT IT!
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Not much I can say to combat your childish name calling. I have no reason to plague the internet with false internet. I used phonearena strictly for my own gain to get info on upcoming phones and services for my own knowledge. I am just trying to shed light on a very popular topic. If it helps, the document is from a Radioshack (its CORPORATE not franchise!) which sells ATT and Sprint, but predominately Sprint. Not to mention documents change with the company as time goes by, so it's not hard to believe the document looks different. Especially coming from an indirect dealer, but that does not VOID its validity.
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I sure hope most of you know when Verizon opens its network fully at the end of the year. You will be able to use the Sprint version on Verizon. I'm a regional manager for Verizon Wireless in Northern AZ, and we are starting to open our network to phones from Alltel and Sprint. So you will be able to use it on VZW. So everyone needs to stop getting their panties in a bunch. Sprint is garbage.. So who cares
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Also to the user who said he wants a Bold on Verizon. We are not getting that phone, its the Thunder not Bold. Ours is much different from the Bold. It's a full touchscreen phone with no keys, while the Bold is a bigger Curve with new software.
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I have had an HTC phone for three years, first was the 6700, then the 6800 and hopefully soon, the New Touch Pro in what ever name they give it. I looked at Verizon to move my business to, I have an air card with them and find that the data for WHERE I go is better. But, Verizon nerfed the 6800 pretty bad, most specifically by removing the internet sharing (not the tethering aspect). I upgraded my phone on Sprint to the WM6.1 (Verizon does not have this upgrade yet, to the best of my knowledge), which makes the WM6 look just plain crappy. I also use a program called WMwifirouter. It turnes my phone into a wireless router. I can drive down the road with my wife on her Itouch, my children on there laptops online all connected to my phones broadband. After I decovered that the Verizon version was stripped many parts of the phone I use. I am not saying that Verizon is better or visa-versa, but that it does not suit my purpose.
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i work for verizon and use a sprint phone. i carry both verzion sucks all they care about is the network. sprint has a relationship with htc so sprint gets first dibbs from now so my regional manager told me. sprint was the first carrier to put htc on there phone instead of utstarcom so sprint will be blessed from htc.
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I'd like to know where you work so I can ask your regional manager why they plant anti-company information with their reps who then seed the information in a very unprofessional manner on the internet. You as a VZW employee SHOULD KNOW that the network is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of ANY cellular company! What good is your TOY IF YOU DON'T HAVE SIGNAL, I ASK???? I think you are really a Sprint employee who is trying to make ppl think that verizon employees would for some reason like sprint better. Whatever, the internet sucks because of people who think the world cares about their opinions in companies. Look at numbers, they don't lie or create opinions like people do so they are a good representation of corporate success and power. So stack up sprints numbers against VZWs please, we will see which company sucks....
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i dont care what yall monkeys say i guess the truth hurts Verizon sucks all they do is pay me . if a network is all you need then use a dumb phone dont even get a pda because it will be stripped. sprint sucks yea ur right they do, there were ran by monkeys before so now that new guy will turn things around.
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I work for verizon and that other fool is right sprint and htc are gay together the sprint 6800 was the first phone to say htc in america and be sold as a htc product. verizion does make u pay so much for things that sprint can provide at a reasonable price.
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ur a verizon employee so ur a verizon fanboy so u can stfu.
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Yeah well when I worked for Olive Garden I wasn't a phukin advocate for the company. And when I worked for Celcom ( an indirect) who sold Cingular, VZW, Sprint, Nextel (they were separate), Boost and TMobile, I used VZW. And I'm not a fanboy, I have already admitted that my company is not the best in the PDA market - just look up there ^ - in fact we are prolly the last between us, sprint, and att. Never mind, enjoy your Sprint phone. I forget I am arguing with someone who can't spell the right form of THEIR.
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Does anyone know if the FM tuner will be stripped put of either phone? One of the reasons I decided on the Touch Pro was because it had one. Otherwise I'll be forced to go with the Sony Xperia1.
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So the report last week that the Diamond would be released by Sprint in August was erroneous? And the reports over the last few months about the Touch Pro (now 'Herman') being released to Sprint in September is also erroneous? So now it looks like October is the new guess date for Herman. I get better information from my Magic 8 Ball.
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Im wondering how well, (or how well it won't) run touchflo 3d with a mere 400mhz processor.
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Something I also noticed is that all these phones have a 1340mAh battery. With that, and the weaker verizon processors (same ones as the xv6800, not really an upgrade, just a new look). I'm starting to think somethings up here... Guess we'll find out when they're released.
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What I mean by the battery thing is, the other versions of the Diamond had a 900mAh-ish batter, so hows the 1340 getting stuck inside the incredibly thin diamond.
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that's because it's going to 14mm thick versus 11.5mm on the original.
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