BlackBerry Storm set to launch November 15th

BlackBerry Storm set to launch November 15th

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Published on: 27 October, 2008 by PhoneArena Team

BlackBerry Storm set to launch November 15th

Over on HowardForums, VZW E has reported that the highly anticipated BlackBerry Storm will be available at corporate stores beginning on Nov 15th and the following day at BestBuy locations. Due to the high demand, corporate stores will also be opening 1 hour early during the first week of the release. Unfortunately, pricing is still unknown at this point.

He also posted a screen shot of the Storm's accessories that will be available at launch.

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i still want to know the price!
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I still want to know if they're gonna make good on the crappy Pearl's and give us a rebate!
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Price determines whether I purchase or not. If more than $300 its a no for me. I can work with my DARE!
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Unless you bought your Dare at full retail you wont be eiligible for an upgrade, so for the Storm you will be looking at full retail and I can guarentee you this will full retail well above $300
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ADD A LINE!
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full retail is going to be around $699
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yep, i had to pay full retail for my env...NOT WORTH IT. belive me if you have a decent phone try to work with it untill your contracts over or buy another phone off ebay. my env was 405$
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i heard retail pricing starting at $149
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Full retail means the unsubsidized price...like if your contract isn't up for renewal yet, or you aren't eligble for your new every two plan yet. The full retail is rumored in the $500-$600 range, while contracted (subsidized) price is flipping back and forth between $0, $99, $149, and $199 (I've seen most all of these on the internet the past couple of months, and these 4 prices seem to be the most widely accepted).
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u r retarded if u paid $405 for a env. full retail price was at $319.99 if that!!! and the env is a great phone. u could never please everybody!
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lol sure is........so Kezia might as well stop dreaming
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its 200 for this week only and then 250
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thats good the stores are opening 1 hour early. i hope this phone is not more expensive than when the voyager came out. i cant wait to see it.
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Ok, i need to get a new phone and i need one from VZW, that has the best e-mail and text messaging capabilities.
Ex. on my Q, i have to go to a menu and request that my new emails be sent to me. I want them to come in just like text messages and be ready for me to check them when i look at my phone.
I really need help. PLEASE HELP ANYONE WITH BRAINS >_>
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blackberrys will "push" and alert you when you get an email.. just use the set up wizard and it will give you different time intervals that it pushes the emails... the most common is five minutes... so every five minutes it checks and if you have an email it alerts you and its right there on the phone.
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wrong - blackberries receive/push your emails through instantly. There is no wait time. I usually get my email on my blackberry before it even hits my gmail.
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no your wrong, It pings the system every fifteen minutes until it recieves an email and then every five after it recieves an email, then back to fifteen after it has recieved an email within the five minutes
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Actually you are wrong; Blackberries can be setup in 2 ways, through a BES or BIS. If a Blackberry is through a BES the time interval can be adjusted. If setup through BIS it is carrier dependant. For example T-mobile has set their servers to push out every 15 min. This varies on exactly how quick you will receive your email, anywhere between 5 sec to 20 mins, probability shows that if you get a new email with a 15 min send time you will receive an email on your blackberry in 50% of the time the carrier has set the push.update.time variable, 7.5 mins on average.
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I have the curve and sell for Verizon and I get my E-mails instantly, work and personal. All of my e-mails have came to my blackberry before my actualy e mail. Blackberrys are the best phones for e-mail. In fact I like my Curve more then my voyager and dare
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it's impossible for your email to hit your phone before your email server -- that doesn't even make sense.

The way these work is usally (BIS method) - checking the server every couple of minutes (set interval on the phone or provider, depends on phone and provider - this one looks like VZW + Storm = 5sec - 5min interval) for new mail. If you have no mail *on the mail server*, you won't get it on the blackberry. hence, why it's impossible for you to receive e-mail you haven't yet received.

For corporate environments (BES method) - the BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server) acts as the mail server for your (often) work account - this is what the BlackBerry "syncs" with.

The lag you may be experiencing could come from a client that you use (Outlook, Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution, etc), as each of these have intervals they check mail with. If your company/mail server uses POP, there is probably going to be a lag. If IMAP/Exchange, they use the same "Push" technology that the Storm utilizes - email is instantly sent and received by maintaining a constant connection with the server. IMAP is usually (from my experience as an Exchange Administrator) slower at updating the Push data than Exchange.
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im not going to act like i know how it worked, but when i had my 8830 and sent an email to my gmail account, and refreshed the computer non stop, the email was actually on my 8830 about 1-2 seconds before gmail. maybe it was comcast's fault lol
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awesome. I can't wait
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NO WIFI this phone is gonna suck...VZ fanboys open wide VZ is about to BUST...
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wifi is for poor people
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wifi is for TMO customers who have to mooch off their neighbors wifi bc they cant afford internet themselves...lol
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I could see wanting Wi-Fi if you had no other way of accessing the web on this phone. Fact is...You are required to get the data plan on a Blackberry. Wi-Fi is a waste if you have a data plan.
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lmao @ #7..... and with t-mobile's "outstanding" 3G coverage....wifi is defnately needed on all of their devices
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hahha lol wifi is for poor people, i agree!
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If WiFi is so important why don't they just throw in satellite TV as well? Why not have the ability to start your car remotely too? Or wirelessly play your Xbox Live Arcade games by waving the phone around in the air like a Wii-mote?

Cell phones are basically complicated radio transceivers that send and receive transmissions that run using a set of frequencies. Different technologies like CDMA voice, GSM voice, PDC, EVDO, EDGE, HSPA, and HMTS all use different frequencies to send and receive information. When you send and receive information using so many different frequencies they can cause problems if they are not compensated for. Since VZW has the largest 3G network covering most of the U.S. and RIM has already added frequencies compatible with all of the previous , adding in WiFi would not be very cost-effective; the development would take a lot longer and the quality of the finished product might not be as good (it might be as bad as the 3G iPhone, where some users were dropping up to 36% of their calls due to conflicts in switching frequencies from 2G to 3G in areas where they shouldn't be having those problems.) The fact that they can do this much is amazing in itself. There's only so much tech they can cram into a machine that fits in the palm of your hand... Besides WiFi isn't available in a lot of places EVDO is; whatever difference there is in speed doesn't measure up to the fact that if I want that speed I have to stay inside the coffee shop (used as one example of WiFi service area)!
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Wi Fi is extremely important... all 3G networks are way too slow... Sure while on the road you have to deal with the broadband EVDO speeds... But soon there will be wireless access points broadcasting through out most major cities... it would have been an easy and nice feature to add... while you are at home or in a coffee shop it would have made browsing the Internet way more enjoyable... It's a shame they did not add this feature... They are giving the iPhone the upper hand here... #49 nice copy and paste job... Cell phones will be doing lots more after 6 months of the Storms release...
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hahah funny....not..... if u know bout cell phone u know wifi is way faster then 3g dumbass n with tmobile ur still required to get data on any smart phone
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wifi, wow how stupid r u? wifi is really for people who cant afford s*** so than you possibly couldn't even afford a phone that has that capability or anytype of interent capability. so stop bitchin and wake up. WIFI=S****Y
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If you think wifi is worthless you're worthless.... OR maybe it's because you've been with VZW who never gets any phones with Wifi and you don't know the true capabilities and benefits of having it. Wifi isnt' that hard of a thing to incorporate, VZW is just retarded and doens't want it on any of their phones. it's like the MMS iPhone gripe, simple thing that it should obviously have, just like any phone that's a high-end PDA should have wifi, it's that simple. They don't have 3G everywhere, and it's not that great where they do have it. Incoporate wifi and you have the speeds you want PERIOD.
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why would you need it at home thats what a laptop is for! lol
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wifi may be faster for computers than an EVDO card but phones can't process the faster data speeds anyways so it won't make a difference.
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to dumbass num 59 i have the google g1 n a lg dare compare dare 3g n g1 on 3g same s*** same speed put the g1 on wifi smokes the dare y cuz it only run on 3g
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VZW..who never gets any phones with WIFI? apparently you haven't been phone shopping this century to even see VZW's products...maybe you should either get out more, or go shop more
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Let's see, VZW's EVDO Rev-A which blankets over 80% of the US population... does FREE WiFi (key word is free cause a lot of WiFi you find makes you pay to use it) cover anywhere close to 80% of the US population? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'll take 3G in a heartbeat.
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I just hate it when workers keep posting for comapnies trying to advocate for their weaknesses. It is so obvious...
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I definitely concur with the above statement!
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Wow you are a dumb a**. Do your research before you get on here and start posting out of your a**. Did you bother thinking about the XV6800 we have currently out and the XV6850 that is coming out. Both happen to be mentioned in the article above.
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Pity. This isn't VZW's weakness. RIM simply didn't put WiFi on this device, but go ahead and ignore the overwhelming evidence that it is not necessary at all when you have VZW's superb 3G coverage.
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I couldn't give a darn about wifi. That doesn't make or break a phone for me. For me, the main thing is battery life! The ability to record/play back video, camera photo editing options and flash, internet access are important to me as well. Speed, kinda sorta. Just as long as I can get on. I've been with T-Mobile for a few years now n' one of the things that burns me up about them is gettin' on the web...when I CAN get on the web. I'm so used to getting error messages now due to poor signal strength, I don't know what to do. Oh yes I do! Happily drop kick the pink-T as soon as The Storm comes out! The Storm will be my first BlackBerry. Everybody I know who owns one tells me nothing but great things about BB battery life. I'm hearin' the same about the Storm.
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the xv 6800 has wifi and the i760 has wifi, get ur facts straight
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I agree, partly. If you've read up on 4g, you will see that 50mb/s over cell is going to happen. Sadly, probably, before the large expanse of access points becomes a reality
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shmuk u dnt need a data plan on tmobile if they tell u that give them a diff imei and jus pop ur sim into ur bberry with verizon thats impossible because it works on a faster and more reliable cdma network
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115: Don't you know that the manufacturer makes what the carrier wants them to? I am so sick of hearing that we should complain to the manufacturer if the phone doesn't have what we want. It's up to the carrier. This is why the new HTC phones have one set of specs for Sprint and a different spec list for VZW. Did you really think that HTC just decided to leave stuff off of the Verizon models for shits and giggles?

I personally don't need Wifi on my device, but people here should respect the fact that some people want it. How is it helpful to label them poor or stupid? (not singling 115 out on this part) Do you really think you are going to change someone's point of view by calling them names?
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why are ppl so obssesed with WIFI. Wouldnt you rather not have the internet whenever and not when you are at a WIFI hotspot.. your an idiot if you are that hard off of WIFI. so go sit in starbucks an to use your internet when i can use mine anywhere. also how do you even figure verizon is about to bust, they are first place in 19 our of 20 markets in consumer reports after the Alltell buy out
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good thing that the new storm is going to be REV A though which is faster then 3g
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great so you will get internet faster in 10% of the places that you have it.. sounds extrememly convienant to me.. you must not have been able to get approved with Verizon so you have to go to T mobile
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actuallt ATT is #1
VZW is #2
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Everyone who argues about cell phones are IDIOTS!! Dumb Geeks! Listen to yourselves whining. Watch some football and go outside and breathe the fresh autumn air. By the way Rev A is the type of 3g. Example. 3G is the Make like Chevrolet and Rev A is the Model like a corvette. Silly Rabbit.
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Wow you probably use it dummy and why not save $20 a month thats $240 a year and $480 in two years so if you are saying lol because they are smart and saving or maybe you are just retarded and laugh out loud all the time
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yeah I had a phone with wifi...... and then my mom got a job!
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to number 99 i'm in college and am making something of myself. there we have FREE(key word free) WiFi.
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well we're very glad that you're making something out of yourself...because you probably have no other talent... it's also very good for you that you get "FREE" WIFI which not many of us are in your shoes being able to just stay in your dorm and scratch your junk with one hand and play with your phone with the other. we wouldn't be having this "discussion" in the first place if there's FREE WIFI EVERYWHERE...unfortunately, unless you're a trillionaire, we don't.

We shouldn't be having this discussion about WIFI or no WIFI anyway. This discussion is about the "VERIZON RIM STORM 9530", that's why there's a big f*$kin' picture of the Storm on top. So those that are saying "...oh you can't save $20-$30 a month, $240-$360 a year" put your damn foot, as matter of fact, put your damn FEET in your mouth, unfortunately while you have a PDA/Smartphone with Verizon, data plan is required so in this case, WIFI or no WIFI does not make a difference WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FEW PLACES WHERE YOU DON'T GET GOOD NETWORK RECEPTION. Thus, giving Verizon policy, because all PDA/Smartphones require data plan, not having WIFI seems like the better decision since that helps lower the price of the phone itself. As one of the fellow writer on this discussion, even if you have WIFI, with bunch of people sharing one network, things are bound to be slow and it can only download and work as fast as your phone allows it. Get over people, there will never be a perfect phone because everyone's needs are different, just admit that Storm is a pretty awesome phone, and i'm pretty sure once Storm's out, 3, 4, 5, 6 months down the road a better phone will come out, that is life...you people are still buying it aren't ya'll? GEEZ
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correction: the comment was stated vzw will be number 1 after the buy out of alltel vzw was number one b4 at&t bought out cingular
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Wi-Fi is inconsequential on these phones. You DO notice a speed increase when you are connected while using the iphone/other blackberry's/WM phones but the processors on all these phones aren't capable of rendering web pages as fast as a full-blown computer. So, my conclusion is that you may as well use the EVDO unless you're somewhere a 3G network doesn't exist. THAT would a reason to have Wi-Fi.
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rev. a is not faster then 3g, it IS 3g. it is revision A of 3g, but still 3g.
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actually vzw does have some phones that have wifi look into it before jumping to some sort of conclusion.
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What is wifi?
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what is the point of having WIFI on a phone that you have to have a data plan. Doesn't make sense.
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obviously, speed.
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the difference is pretty small on a handheld device...
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false
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I too was disappointed in the lack of WIFI in the Storm, but then realized that with Verizon's high speed Rev.A (3G) network, I really won't need WIFI. I can't wait to get this phone ahh!!!
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really so do you download entire movies to your phone? because download speeds is the on place that your really going to notice and that assuming is a fast original connection without too many users pulling the bandwidth which is very common in any public wifi spot.. and if your at home get off your lazy a$$ and go to your computer... hey look i have have wifi i can get a this sweet connection at starbucks.. oh wait its loading... still loading... oh there it goes.. man its sooo sweet ... or maybe hey look at me i dont have to roll off my couch to look at facebook i can stay here... oh man im soo sweet.... wifi totally rocks.. ahh thats awesome someone can hack right in to this unsecured connection... thank god for wifi
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Speed isn't much different over wifi vs. 3g. At least on the i760 and XV6800, the two Verizon phones that have wifi and 3g. Unless you've got a stopwatch, you can't tell the differnece. And since the Storm requires a data plan, wifi is pretty unnecessary.
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to #13.....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
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Haha, great reply, I thought it was hilarious... and true... As for the price... I'd be willing to sell my second born child, but for my first born, it had better come at some discounted price with cool accessories! hehe. Honestly though, I'm anticipating some ridiculous price to come with this phone, which kind of sucks because the iphone is now selling for $200.00. It'd be nice to wrangle some of those att customers and bring them over to our side and make verizon that much bigger in New York. I bought my voyager for $175.00 with the applicable rebates and discounts, I just hope that I an buy the device with the same discounts when my turn is up!
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wow thats not even from this decade and its nearing at least a decade since that movie was out... you must be on the same level as the idoits that cry about wifi.... my knee jerk reaction is hey the 90s want their joke back but then again why support the problem..
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and because its not from this decade its not funny? that is the dumbest remark i have ever heard in my life. thats like saying quotes from the godfather are terrible because it was not made in 2006...idiot
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The only time i would really need wi-fi is when i get off of a plane and find out the carrier I'm on is down in that area and I can't make phone calls or send email, or send sms, happened to me once, and wi-fi would have come in handy.
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ur stupid, thats like having AOL dial-up and Qwest regular Hi-Speed, wat a waste you r #9
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well its not really the speed. For my iphone on youtube and all the other phones my friends use whenever they try to watch video their phones its all blocky and no quality. Now with wifi over the iphone Picture quality is exactly like the computer screen and faster.
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Having WiFi on a phone with a data plan makes perfect sense and is an absolute necessity for many business people. Why? I am a small business owner and I need email access every day. In the USA, I have my VZW data plan. Outside the USA, I'd be SOL in a lot of places. I used to take my laptop on vacation. Now I take my XV6800...it's just a wee bit smaller and lighter! In a pinch, I can even work on a client's server using the RDP client. Definitely NOT fun, but doable!

Tell me if your data plan gets you Internet access at this location.

20 degrees south latitude
154 degrees west longitude

In case you were wondering, that is roughly 300 miles southwest of Tahiti, in the middle of the ocean. My phone works there for email, using the ship's WiFi...does your non-WiFi phone let you get email there? Mine does, without having to go to AT$T sh*t USA service just for worldwide coverage. Until I need phone voice service in those circumstances, WiFi email will work perfectly.

I can get email at any WiFi hotspot anywhere in the world. If I never left the USA, then I would not need it.

I am amazed that no one mentioned this circumstance yet (unless I missed it).

Gregg

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Yeah, WI-FI isnt needed. You have to get the 29.99 data plan on any Blackberry with Verizon. Its the fastest option anyway. Who wants a slower internet where the more people that are on it, the slower it becomes? Theres a reason they dont put Wi-FI on it. I cant wait to check this phone out though.
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the storm would be in the stores im sure BY the 15th but it definitely will not go on sale on that date, VZW has never launched a device on a saturday and they won't this time, it is usually ALWAYS a Tues or Weds just FYI.
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damn too bad u guys are gonna waste your money on this when you cold wait 15 more days and get the pimpin OMNIA

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yea but the storm is revolutionary because of the touchscreen features, may be bad or good, we'll have to see. plus the blackberry storm's screen looks bigger.
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wait 15 more days and get the pimpin OMNIA...which is not a global phone; true benefit having the STORM is for those who travels internationally and having to keep up with e-mails and wanting the revolutionary phone at the same time. Having played with that device as well as the Storm, OMNIA response time isn't as fast as the Storm, besides, although Storm lack of WIFI, battery time is certainly better than OMNIA.
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wow ok but for us regular people who don't need a world based phone but still want some cool features withough the $$$$$$$ tag OMNIA is epic touchscreen on storm is not better and windows mobile kid
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it does boil down to what you use it for, both are great phones, just the difference between RIM OS and Win OS
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I can be playing with the Storm for those 15 days and if I decide I don't like it, then I can trade it in for the Omnia. Beauty of having 30 days to return the phone.
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yea you would be able to exchange it under the 30 days but you would have to be pay a $35 restocking fee!!! but why wouldnt you like the storm. ive played with the omnia and dont get me wrong i love it!! but i think the storm is going to be ten times better!
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Id take a Blackberry over a Microsoft loaded Samsung any day!
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... even if verizon did put wifi on it (i don't see why they would...) but the cost of the phone would only go up... get this thew your thick skulls people with verizon you HAVE to get a data plan with blackberry, there for you have 3g everywhere! why would verizon wast their time and put wifi on it... common sense anyone?
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what exactly is thew??? just curious
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Given the context, I believe #30 meant the following:

"thew" = through
"there for" = therefor
"wast" = waste (not waist, that's where you wear your belt.)

It is interesting to observe that those who carry on with the most emotion and flames are those who appear to not have graduated 5th grade grammar or spelling. The Internet gives a forum to all. Pity, that.
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*correction to #35, there for = therefore...forgot the "e" there...LOL..but well done sir
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So a person who is priding himself on correcting others and belittling them apparently needs correction himself.... brilliant
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