A Storm is coming, but it may not be very good

A Storm is coming, but it may not be very good

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Published on: 14 September, 2008 by PhoneArena Team

A Storm is coming, but it may not be very good

VZW appears set to announce the BlackBerry Storm tomorrow, but a ninja says the device isn't all that it's cracked up to be...

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whats the Big NEWs man I want this phone !!
LOL I heard the ninja lost his job at rimm
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He does not work for RIM. He works for Yahoo!
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this looks like a cool phone. i wonder if it will beat sales of the voyager? im still waiting for the htc raphael though...how come on blackberrys they dont offer vcast music or videos?
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i think its going to beat the voyager sales. I mean verizon hasnt even advertised this phone and i already have a small waiting list for it when it does come out.
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VZW doesn't add any of their features to any of their PDAs. That includes windows mobile and palm devices as well. Not sure why they don't offer those services, especially when more and more regular consumers are switching from normal phone devices to the PDAs. As far the guy that said that sprint is known to release phones with software issues just to be first, I agree with you on only one device and that is the Instinct. They did not do enough QA on the device before releasing it, however they are rectifying it. But, the HTC Diamond is a PDA device. That being said, I know plenty of people that have the HTC Touch and Mogul and have never once had a problem. The only time that they ever performed an update is to upgrade to Win Mo 6.1. You really need to get your facts straight before criticizing. The fact is the Diamond's predecessor is the Touch and it is available on both Sprint and VZW. It was also available through Alltell. VZW practically crippled the Touch performance, menus were sluggish compared to other Touch models and the overall product was slow. Read the reviews on both Sprint's and VZW's Touch devices. Reviews don't make Sprint's device perfect, but it was rated higher than VZW's. Also the Sprint Touch has something that VZW does not. It adds Sprint's media services: Sprint TV, Sprint Radio, Sprint Navigation, Sprint Music Store, etc. Sprint realizes that just because someone buys a PDA, it doesn't mean that they are a stodgy old businessman who deosn't want any extras. VZW has yet to release a PDA device with their VCast on it, with the exception of the Moto Q9m (which was a butchered consumer version of the Q9c). Since your talking firsts, did you know that the Q9m is one of the worst rated PDA devices for its time and the first and only one to push it out to market was VZW. Sprint waited until about 6 months after to launch the Q9c. Same device without a bunch of features being AWOL and low and behold 2 months later VZW announces the Q9c and quickly tries to sweep the Q9m fiasco under the rug. Both companies have had there share of releasing phones early to get them out only to have firmware updates come out within a month or two, so quit your righteous defense of your PREFERRED carrier. Oh, and in case you were wondering, the phone currently on the market that is the best example of phones being released with firmware issues is VZW's Moto RAZR. It had 4-5 firmware updates within the first 2 months!!!! The Sprint RAZR is still on sell and has had maybe 2 updates to the firmware since it's release date.
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Verizon does offer VCast Video on PDAs (m.vcast.com). AppZone on many PDA gives you some features of a dumbphone. The Moto RAZR has 2 different Software's the old which is when Verizon 1st launched it and the New which is the same as the K1m. The reason why there are so many updates... Moto could not make a good enough Flash UI to work on top of their Java UI. VZW Demanded their UI on the phone but Moto couldn't handle it when all other Cellphone company's could, IE LG, Samsung, UTStarcom. If Moto can get the software right, maybe their phones like the Q9m and RAZR would be good phone but if they cannot meet carrier demand then they deserve to lose the market share... these phones obviously don't effect Verizon's market share.
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It's actually a proven fact that upon the release of a device VZW has a 90 test period to which if there is any problems they start the 90 days over again. AT&T and Sprint have a 30 Day test period to correct any issues which doen\s not reset if there is a problem.
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Um... perhaps you should do a bit of research before making statements. VZW released the original Q and then the Q9M, THEN AT&T got a Q9 global GSM variant than VZW released the most recent version the Q9C. And wnough with this stupid 'crippled' cr@p... on the cell phones maybe, but the PDA's are straight from the manufacturer. VZW just added V-cast to the Q since it's more multimedia oriented then say a treo. you guys can find anything to complain about eh? :lol:
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First of all get your facts straight, Centro and others had way worse software problems when they were first released on sprint. The fact is if you want to make a call with your pda/cell phone,choose VZW the biggest carrier with the largest EVDO network. I actually work for VZW so i would rather have my PDA be stript of functions that i am not gonna use just so i dont drop a call on your beloved sprint network. Give me a call when you switch to VZW cause sprint goes out of business
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you work for vzw? id never have guessed :rolleyes

as a former employee, its painfully obvious that youre drinking all the kool-aid they constantly dish out. everything is not as it seems.
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Hey 19: what were the software issues with the Centro? Just wondering because I didn't have any problems.
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Really hmm... Yeah VZW has a bigger Coverage area for Evdo with 3g support... SO i guess its a good thing Sprint uses 3.5g huh? and as far as it goes for v-cast thats a manufacturing agreement. And as far as Moto goes they did not want vzw ui do to the fact that it is slow buggy and uses a rediculous amount of ROM to function. And if you check the Ratings for Call Quality Sprint and VZW are on Par with At&t at a far 3rd.. Sprint actually releases things that do what they say they will do or if something does come out buggy they fix it insted of denying or trying to pass the buck like VZW
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thats right, take the word of some guy with a ninja outfit on, and dont have the capacity to make a judgement for yourself. Besides, people that switch from carrier to carrier for PHONES are idiots. you pick a carrier based on SERVICE
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haha lol...i totally agree with you on that
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There are call surveys backing up your great coverage for calls with vzw but they paint Sprint in just as good a light. Where is the study that says apps cause bad calls? You might want to get that fact checked.
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Are you kidding me Sprint is garbage. There customer service is garbage along with there network get a clue. You must live in the dead center of a major city cause if you were anywhere else you would already have a diff carrier
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verizon came out on top after hurricane gustav! please read this EVERYONE
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/verizon-wireless-post-gustav-test-drive/story.aspx?guid=%7BDE D98051%2D587A%2D4E1E%2DA720%2DB231F7679A2D%7D
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I live in the 'burbs of Philly and travel throught NJ to NYC and through DE to MD all the time and never have any issues with coverage at all. As a matter of fact, in Atlantic City, I get service in the casinos and my dad and uncle (who have Verizon) do not.

I am not trying to say that Sprint has better coverage, but it's not "garbage". It's better for me with a better selection of phones and a WAY better value at $99.99 for unlimited calling, texting and data.

As far as CS goes, I've only had to call them a few of times in seven years and while it was a nightmare a year and a half ago, it seems to have gotten a lot better.


I'm sure VZW is the better choice for many, but when you make blanket statements, it tends to make you look a bit foolish, no?
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It makes MORE sense that the blackberry storm tested by the ninja dude was a pre-release model and not the official for sale to the public product! Why would blackberry taint there name by releasing a flawed device? Granted! This is there first touchscreen BB but commonsense would tell me that that alone would be cause for even more rigorous testing of the BBstorm than any other previous device.
So you guys can continue to speculate, assume and get little bits of questionable info and run with it while i reserve judgement and exercise some commonsense;)
By the way Sprint has all was released phones earlier than a few carries because they have adopted a "get it in the consumers hands asap and will deal with issues as they manifest themselves attitude". Its not always the best idea for costumer care reasons but we do live in a "i want it like yesterday" generation so...
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agreed
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I put up the video.


Yes it was a prototype, and yes it was a bad decision. I loved my job at RIM HQ in Canada, the country was outrageously expensive and the people were a bit stuck up, but the job was amazing.

And no, I wasnt a designer or a programmer, I simply worked in the mail room. I was offered to participate in the alpha program RIM was running for this phone, usually all the employees get to participate in one or two a year. I was really happy to get the Thunder aka The Storm as a prototype trial over the Bold because the Bold is really just a beefed up Curve.

I made the video for just one reason, and it wasnt to "expose" Rim and Blackberry for a bad product. It was revenge.

See I had already been let go 2 days before I made the video, I had made the mistake of emailing several friends a few pics of the device and it came up a security breach through our crack track team ( security personell). I was subsequently terminated for this, and I made the video out of spite.

I am well aware that my BB was a prototype and nowhere near the finished the product. It is a gorgeous looking device, and no I am not enthusiastic of the touch technology they are using ( the same type of touch Samsung has tried to use on the Instinct) but I also know that RIM doesnt fail.

So for all you Apple enthusiasts that used my video to comfort yourself, RIM will be seeing your money soon enough, since this is a lock to drop the I Phone to their knees. The dev team used I Phones for one month and have taken alot from that experience. That is bad news for Apple.

Ninja aka Harvey Fenstermaker


if you question my validity and my identity, please feel free to check out my newest video posted that shows me and explains why I did what i did. I still have the Storm, I never returned it.
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Wow no offense but i work for VZW and that was a pretty dumb way to lose your job. That sucks man you should have never sent those e-mails out i love my job and i would never do anything to harm that in anyway
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So if you worked for RIM how did you get the HTC Coke and the LG Lotus that was also in the video?
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Ok so where can we see the new video?
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I call BS!
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if you watched the video.. then you would realize that it was not an actual review. the guy who "reviewed" it is very biased toward blackberrys. check his blog. take the review with a grain of salt and make a decision when the device goes under a real review with real tests.
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The "ninja" was using a Storm running old firmware so his review is pretty much irrelevant. A particular insider who has some experience with the current Storm has said nothing but great things about it.
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