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crd22
09-08-2008, 09:45 PM
Verizon will buy Sprint and get rights to the iPhone (in a few years at least).:D

Verizon's accusation of Sprint will substantially increase their network size and gain loads of customers (most of them who stayed for the $99 Unlimited Everything Plan). Hopefully they will be smart and implant the $99 plan for all Verizon/Sprint customers, creating lots of happy faces that range from teenagers to business men.
The guarunteed income from millions of customers (probably lots switching from T-Mobile and AT&T too) will allow Verizon Wireless to advance cellular technology at a much quicker pace and obtain nearly 100% service within the U.S.

The iPhone accusition by then will probably be unnecessary because their will be better phones on better networks, but the iPhone will most definately improve also. If Verizon gets the iPhone (which won't be for at least 3 years), AT&T loses a large chunk of customers to Verizon- Which goes back to making the best wireless network.

The End.
Expect it to develop within the next year or two.

Unregistered
09-08-2008, 09:49 PM
With VZW's pending buy-out of ALLTEL, they don't need Sprint's POS skeleton network. VZW has the network because with little exception, almost all of it is from the incumbent legacy networks of GTE, AirTouch, Bell Atlantic...the overlaps with PrimeCo were kept and PrimeCo spun. ALLTEL is also an incumbent footprint. They don't need Sprint. They would've bought them already...it ain't happening.

Anomalies
09-09-2008, 01:25 PM
You know that VerizonWireless was offered the iPhone first right and we declined it?

VZWtrainer
09-09-2008, 02:47 PM
1) The Unregistered guest makes a great point. The Altell aquisition will help VZW out more than aquiring Sprint would (besides Sprint has more customers than Altell). In the most recent JD Power results for call reception, there are 6 areas of the US, VZW has the best reception in 4 of them, Altell does in the other two. Once that goes through, the Nationwide coverage of the VZW network will be impeccable.

2) Apple is a manufacturer of high quality electronics. Naturally, when looking for the exclusive wireless carrier for the iPhone, they also wanted the best wireless network. This is why they approached Verizon Wireless first about carrying the iPhone. VZW turned it down for two main reasons: apple would not allow the phone to support any first party VZW media content such as Get-It-Now and VCast and because Apple wanted to do all of the tech support for the phone in-house. VZW anticipated that this would be a huge problem for customers (which it now is) and told apple that if they wanted the phone to be on the VZW network then apple would have to retract their demands. They didn't and went to AT&T.

crd22
09-09-2008, 04:41 PM
I know Verizon was first choice for the iPhone, but I doubt they knew about its ENORMOUS success. Probably expecting a dud from Apple (because it's their first phone) was probably another reason for denial.

Sprint strongly competes with Verizon with their Unlimited Everything Plan which is a (very) strong selling point for corporate America and also a cheap plan for the rest of us. Plus Sprint is a bigger company (than Altell) with more customers and bigger network which Verizo easily uses to their advantage cus they use the same tecnology unlike AT&T.

I was just suggesting this giant merger because I think it helps everyone in the long run. More customers, more workers, better service, and hopefully better plans- which aims directly at Verizon.

Unregistered
09-09-2008, 10:01 PM
I know Verizon was first choice for the iPhone, but I doubt they knew about its ENORMOUS success. Probably expecting a dud from Apple (because it's their first phone) was probably another reason for denial.

Sprint strongly competes with Verizon with their Unlimited Everything Plan which is a (very) strong selling point for corporate America and also a cheap plan for the rest of us. Plus Sprint is a bigger company (than Altell) with more customers and bigger network which Verizo easily uses to their advantage cus they use the same tecnology unlike AT&T.

I was just suggesting this giant merger because I think it helps everyone in the long run. More customers, more workers, better service, and hopefully better plans- which aims directly at Verizon.

Sprint's network is garbage compared to ALLTEL's. ALLTEL, while having fewer customers and being a smaller company, their native network actually covers more square miles than Sprint's. Sprint does not compete with VZW. Sprint is losing millions, MILLIONS of customers every quarter.

The parent company of Sprint, spun off SPCS and became Embarq. Severing ILEC money and trashed customer service. Sprint, and its customers are damaged goods. VZW doesn't want, or need to clean up that mess. They net fewer customers, but still rise to #1 in customer base, acquire a company with a better financial footing.

Unregistered
09-10-2008, 10:43 AM
I know Verizon was first choice for the iPhone, but I doubt they knew about its ENORMOUS success. Probably expecting a dud from Apple (because it's their first phone) was probably another reason for denial.

Sprint strongly competes with Verizon with their Unlimited Everything Plan which is a (very) strong selling point for corporate America and also a cheap plan for the rest of us. Plus Sprint is a bigger company (than Altell) with more customers and bigger network which Verizo easily uses to their advantage cus they use the same tecnology unlike AT&T.

I was just suggesting this giant merger because I think it helps everyone in the long run. More customers, more workers, better service, and hopefully better plans- which aims directly at Verizon.

I dont think you getting the point here..

The reason for the Alltel merger was not to obtain customer's. I understand your arguement, but your in lack of details with it.. The purpose for the merger was to obtain a better coverage area, potentially offering Verzion Wireless to score the best 6 out of 6 coverage area scores the companies the Jd power. Not only will this give a stronger more reliable network (slogin we stand by), but it will also attract the attention of more product knowlegable folks that do a little more research on items before buying..

As far as the Iphone, Ive failed to see the major hype on it. Ive purchased it for 2 weeks just to see how it was and I must say that I was not to impressed. Although it did have a cool "look" to it, and some pretty nifty features.. It lacked in the most important aspects. A reliable phone, and network. It lacked the ability to do the basic picutre messaging. How is it, that a company markets a handset as a revolutionary break through in technology, yet it cant even picture message?? Thats a MAJOR downfall. Also, unless you live in a large city where it is easy for one to grab WiFi, then the internet is also garabage. The phone seems very fragile, and is not at all comfortable to talk on. Its a large surface area to throw in a front pocket, to keep it in the back pocket you have to be careful not to sit on it, and to sport it on your waste is well....... just dorky.

Ill stick with my Dare that has a more reliable phone, smaller, lighter, faster internet, and able to send mms.

To each theyre own...

GDawgtuk
09-11-2008, 01:06 PM
Verizon will buy Sprint and get rights to the iPhone (in a few years at least).:D

Verizon's accusation of Sprint will substantially increase their network size and gain loads of customers (most of them who stayed for the $99 Unlimited Everything Plan). Hopefully they will be smart and implant the $99 plan for all Verizon/Sprint customers, creating lots of happy faces that range from teenagers to business men.
The guarunteed income from millions of customers (probably lots switching from T-Mobile and AT&T too) will allow Verizon Wireless to advance cellular technology at a much quicker pace and obtain nearly 100% service within the U.S.

The iPhone accusition by then will probably be unnecessary because their will be better phones on better networks, but the iPhone will most definately improve also. If Verizon gets the iPhone (which won't be for at least 3 years), AT&T loses a large chunk of customers to Verizon- Which goes back to making the best wireless network.

The End.
Expect it to develop within the next year or two.


All other extremely valid points aside (Iphone being denied by Verizon first, the Alltel merger being a much better plan, etc) there is one definitive reason why Verizon wouldnt take sprint which is much more to the point: When someone hears the name Sprint, they don't think quality. 600,000+ people leave sprint every quarter and they have been selling towers just to pay bills. Verizon buying Sprint would look as smart as Sprint buying Nextel. Alltel worked their way down from Canada and would fill gaps that Sprint could never dream of even touching. If you read even 2 reviews for the IPhone you will see that they praise it for being a great device but an aweful phone. Verizon needs them both to be quality as does any company so the Iphone isnt even an item that warrants desire.

I know Verizon was first choice for the iPhone, but I doubt they knew about its ENORMOUS success. Probably expecting a dud from Apple (because it's their first phone) was probably another reason for denial.

I am not sure if you remember this at all, or you may not even be aware depending how old you are; but there was a time when Best Buy sold Apple computers and then completely stopped. The reason?: Apple requires that they manage the price that is set and with every sale a set commission goes to them. The store has no say in the pricing of the unit and apple sets their own commission (which I can assume isn’t a variable since I am sure no company would agree with that). Verizon prices their units competitively and prices fluctuate constantly. For a company to come along and say, "Hi, I want to offer my phone through you guys but I will always control the pricing and not only do you buy the phones from my company but for everyone you sell AT MY SET PRICING I also will take a commission because you are oh so lucky enough anyway to be selling my awesome generally glossy product(s)" is unacceptable. This is why the data plan is required with the device and they had the "price cut" which has the service nearly doubled resulting in the phone costing the customer more in the end. And this "ENORMOUS" success is riddled with issues resulting in customers needing a lot of service which directs them to their nearest apple store which is losing a lot of business for AT&T (unsatisfied customers due to customer service, etc).

Expect it to develop within the next year or two.

Do yourself a favor and don't hold your breath. Only thing I see happening in 2 years is the fall of Sprint/Nextel (based off current market standing).

Anomalies
09-11-2008, 05:07 PM
To the OP, I restored this thread.

You can't delete something just cause you were proved wrong

Unregistered
09-11-2008, 08:02 PM
+1 for Alltel's network > Sprint's. Also VZW and Sprint cover so much of the same markets, VZW would likely have to divest more then it would actually pick up in the aquisition. I'd guess VZW and ATT are waiting on Sprint to self destruct and scoop up the pieces.

VZWtrainer
09-13-2008, 10:27 AM
I don't believe the FCC or DOJ would allow Verizon Wireless and Sprint to merge either. That would be considered a CDMA monopoly.

Unregistered
10-08-2008, 10:18 PM
Actually the reason why verizon turned down the iphone was because it did not pass the 100 point reliability test that they do on all phones that they release to consumers...Also verizon study's their phones for at least 2 years before they release it to the consumers unlike most companys that jump the gun to keep up with verizon's wide range of stylish phones...That's the reason it took so long for verizon to release the palm centro after sprint had it...I just wished that people would stop complaining about things until they have all of the facts about the situation...It's rediculous and people make fools of themselves when they jump the gun...